Re: [Chevelle-list] th700R4

[Wayne]

Mike. That's what he was trying to explain to me.  About the Fluid/oil 
circuit in lock up and none lock up. and how with the manufacturing of new 
aftermarket parts
Your  better off in the  none lock build... I was looking over some of my 
Overdrive stuff when  I went down this road a few years ago. and at that 
time
Spoke to Art Car , he had just opened  his new shop, and he was firm  in 
his beliefs  to use None Lock up. But the cost in 2000 added 400 extra to 
the build...he laso opted for the th200r4 but stressed a long list of 
upgrades...to mke it survive from it's lowly low hp stock build.

The extra Heat  is from the converter in 4th Gear/ Over Drive. in  it's LOCK 
UP  mode. It  shuts off the oil circulation  as part of the Lock Up 
process.
This is one reason my builder says..  keep it loose, keep it cool and , keep 
it unlocked..


Thanks for the input guys..
.If I did not Drive the wheel off my cars. I would opt for a built TH-400.. 
but  I am sooooo spoiled with my  Elky and it's over drive

Wayne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] th700R4


Wayne, I have a 700R4 behind a  built 421 tripower in my 64 Tempest. I am
using a lockup converter w/manual switch because it was highly recommended
by Bowtie Overdrives, which is where the trans came from. Their reasoning
was because of heat created by converter slippage in overdrive. My 
converter
only locks in overdrive and I do see a substantial difference in trans 
temp
when I drive alot in third versus in OD. BTO says the trans temp should 
not
be much above 150 for extended periods. The only time I see higher temps 
is
on hot days when I am not getting into OD/lockup mode. Hope this helps.
Mike Holleman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <Chevelle-list@chevelles.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] th700R4


I am gathering parts from my up coming street rod Project. 38 chevy 
coupe.
I
have a 700 R4 in my 65 Elky and like it .
I stoped at the local HP trans builder. and we talked about what I
wanted...He suggested a 89 later  with all the transgo stuff  HD sun 
shell
39 sprag and 13 vane pump..  ect   But also said " In his opnion" He 
would
prefer I use a NONE lock up converter with the  none lock up valve and
none
lock up converter...
2000-2300 RPM  none lock up converter and modified to run full fluid/oil
flow in 4th gear.
This will go behind a ZZ4 350 with the LT1 hot Cam (395 HP and 425 ftlb
tourque) 9" ford  .370 rear and 3300 LB aprox.
Any feedback on the None lockup VS Lock up ?
Wayne
ACES 1556
TC 186
Ps  I use the TCI  scheme lock up with a vacumn switch on the elky..