E-85 is not the way to go cost wise either. Maybe when more facilities are up and running making the stuff the price will go down. I had a FFV in 2000 when no stations were around to try the stuff but I remembered seeing the estimated mpg of gas being 20/27 and the E-85 being 12-16. I hate seeing the gas station every day as it is let alone needing to fill up a couple of times a day. The .10-.20 cent savings here in the midwest makes the $ per mile go up. I would do my part for the enviroment if the cost per mile was comperable but not for more $. Again, My $.02
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From: Jim Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:15:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Average mpg for cars sold in 1980: 23.1. Average gas mileage for cars sold in 2005: 24.7.
From: Jim Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Average mpg for cars sold in 1980: 23.1. Average gas mileage for cars sold in 2005: 24.7.
Karl, I agree. Those are very disappointing numbers.
I live in western New York. NY Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton was here about
2-3 months ago patting herself on the back for getting GM several million
dollars in grant money for the development of alternate fuel engines
(Ethanol) . She praised Gm for their 10 year effort. I was surprised to
hear that GM has been working on this for that long.
If I were paying for facilities and engineers for 10 years to develop
alternate fuel engines and this is far as we've come, the whole bunch would
be working somewhere else.
The government should give that money to the aftermarket industry. They
seem to know what we want and respond faster and better than the big guys.
They would do a better job with the fuel issue for sure.
Jim S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Average mpg for cars sold in 1980: 23.1. Average
gas mileage for cars sold in 2005: 24.7.
> I found this at http://www.dailyfueleconomytip.com/?p=195
>
> "According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
the
> average gas mileage for new vehicles sold in the United States has 23.1
> miles per gallon (mpg) in 1980 to 24.7 in 2004. This represents a paltry
> increase of slightly less than 7% over the 25 year period."
>
>
> This is amazing and sad. All that emissions crap and technology junk that
> gets rammed down our throats and that's the best they can do?
> I had a 77 Z/28 about 10 years ago that had 10:1 compression, a 286 cam,
all
> roller valve train, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Edelbrock Performer
> intake and carb, HEI, TCI Streetfighter trans, and 3.42:1 posi and it got
> 18MPG highway!
>
> If I can do that, you'd think these car companies could do better.
>
> Karl Groves
> Master Certified CIW
> http://www.karlcore.com
>
> Will Work For Parts:
> http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3
>
>
I live in western New York. NY Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton was here about
2-3 months ago patting herself on the back for getting GM several million
dollars in grant money for the development of alternate fuel engines
(Ethanol) . She praised Gm for their 10 year effort. I was surprised to
hear that GM has been working on this for that long.
If I were paying for facilities and engineers for 10 years to develop
alternate fuel engines and this is far as we've come, the whole bunch would
be working somewhere else.
The government should give that money to the aftermarket industry. They
seem to know what we want and respond faster and better than the big guys.
They would do a better job with the fuel issue for sure.
Jim S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Groves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'The Chevelle Mailing List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Average mpg for cars sold in 1980: 23.1. Average
gas mileage for cars sold in 2005: 24.7.
> I found this at http://www.dailyfueleconomytip.com/?p=195
>
> "According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
the
> average gas mileage for new vehicles sold in the United States has 23.1
> miles per gallon (mpg) in 1980 to 24.7 in 2004. This represents a paltry
> increase of slightly less than 7% over the 25 year period."
>
>
> This is amazing and sad. All that emissions crap and technology junk that
> gets rammed down our throats and that's the best they can do?
> I had a 77 Z/28 about 10 years ago that had 10:1 compression, a 286 cam,
all
> roller valve train, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge heads, Edelbrock Performer
> intake and carb, HEI, TCI Streetfighter trans, and 3.42:1 posi and it got
> 18MPG highway!
>
> If I can do that, you'd think these car companies could do better.
>
> Karl Groves
> Master Certified CIW
> http://www.karlcore.com
>
> Will Work For Parts:
> http://chevelle.karlcore.com/detail.php?id=3
>
>
