hi metin, bit late to reply "traveling in mayanmar for chinese new year, ;)", you can do release with CB, check my draw app: http://github.com/mihawk/draw
cheer mihawk 2014-01-31 20:39 GMT+08:00 Metin Akat <[email protected]>: > Hello > > Congratulations about Chicago Boss. From what I see, it's the "best" > Erlang web framework I have seen so far. The parts that interest me are > very good. Namely: routing, controllers, session, websockets. I like the > design of the APIs very much. Lots of thought has been put into them. > When I think about it, during the past years, I have repeatedly > re-invented parts of what CB does - on top of either Webmachine or Cowboy. > And I am a bit tired of it. > > But at it's current state, CB is practically unusable to me. I will state > some "problems" (from my point of view), and will ask some questions. > Please, don't read it as a criticism. I very much appreciate CB's > philosophy and goals. Giving a complete and working solution to Erlang > newbies is a huge accomplishment. I hope it brings more people to > Erlang-land. > > So, here we go: > > 1. At it's current state, I cannot integrate CB into my projects. While > developing them, I have adopted something very similar to what Riak does: > apps/ dir to hold several applications that make the entirety of the > project. Then generate a release in rel/myproject and run everything by > using app.config and vm.args, as OTP principles rule. My "web" part of the > project would be a separate application and CB itself would go into deps/. > Currently, CB projects get crated with a "CB config" and custom script to > run that. What is worse... all these get created with hardcoded paths > written to them. > Yes, I know that part of the goals for CB 1.0 is OTP compliance. I am very > much interested to find out what is your plan. > And there is more... > > 2. CB is HUGE. It has more dependencies than my otherwise huge project. By > adding a CB project to my code, the deps/ dir will more than double. The > build time will more than double. The release package will grow a lot too. > I certainly don't need (or want to) ship MongoDB libraries with my project. > > 3. I don't need most of CB. And I suspect the greater part of the seasoned > Erlang developers don't either. I don't need Models, BossDB. In such > projects usually the data is retrieved from other parts of the Erlang > system. They on the other hand might, or might not talk to different (or > no) databses, third party services etc. Most of the time I don't need > Templates, as I usually create JSON/REST APIs with no HTML generation. I > just want an easy way to add some http/websockets functionality to my > project. And no, I no more want to "just use Cowboy/Webmachine", as I end > up with a custom framework around it. And it usually ends up not very well > designed, and hard to maintain. > > > So, have you guys thought about the possibility of extracting a "Chicago > Minion" out of the "Chicago Boss". Very much like riak_core ended up being > a dependency to Riak, and usable by third parties. > > As I see it, it would be Routing + Controllers + Websockets in a well > packaged OTP compliant application. Very slim and with the bare minimum of > dependencies. > And then, maybe have also BossDb, Models, Sessions etc. in separate OTP > packages. And still have the huge "Chicago Boss" meta-package that does > exactly what it does now (or better). > > So, my questions are: > > 1. Do you guys think this is possible, or feasible with the current code > base (I haven't read it). > 2. Do you think it's a good idea? > > If you decide to take on such a direction, I would offer some help with it. > > Cheers, > Metin > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ChicagoBoss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/chicagoboss. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chicagoboss/50431de8-d543-4a9e-84bc-915999e72901%40googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChicagoBoss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/chicagoboss. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chicagoboss/CAB-Ofh%3DWrdkrR06q%3Dh%3D%3Dw2NKz_e4_a9jhTX7b2D8xzFmrjZy8g%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
