Hi,
Yes, after I started this thread I proceeded and figured on my own how to
force CB into a release. Very similar to your result. My other complaints
still apply though... In practice I still prefer to not use CB because of
its size.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 2:38 AM, chan sisowath <[email protected]>wrote:

> hi metin,
>
>  bit late to reply "traveling in mayanmar for chinese new year, ;)",
>  you can do release with CB, check my draw app:
> http://github.com/mihawk/draw
>
> cheer
> mihawk
>
>
>
> 2014-01-31 20:39 GMT+08:00 Metin Akat <[email protected]>:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Congratulations about Chicago Boss. From what I see, it's the "best"
>> Erlang web framework I have seen so far. The parts that interest me are
>> very good. Namely: routing, controllers, session, websockets. I like the
>> design of the APIs very much. Lots of thought has been put into them.
>> When I think about it, during the past years, I have repeatedly
>> re-invented parts of what CB does - on top of either Webmachine or Cowboy.
>> And I am a bit tired of it.
>>
>> But at it's current state, CB is practically unusable to me. I will state
>> some "problems" (from my point of view), and will ask some questions.
>> Please, don't read it as a criticism. I very much appreciate CB's
>> philosophy and goals. Giving a complete and working solution to Erlang
>> newbies is a huge accomplishment. I hope it brings more people to
>> Erlang-land.
>>
>> So, here we go:
>>
>> 1. At it's current state, I cannot integrate CB into my projects. While
>> developing them, I have adopted something very similar to what Riak does:
>> apps/ dir to hold several applications that make the entirety of the
>> project. Then generate a release in rel/myproject and run everything by
>> using app.config and vm.args, as OTP principles rule. My "web" part of the
>> project would be a separate application and CB itself would go into deps/.
>> Currently, CB projects get crated with a "CB config" and custom script to
>> run that. What is worse... all these get created with hardcoded paths
>> written to them.
>> Yes, I know that part of the goals for CB 1.0 is OTP compliance. I am
>> very much interested to find out what is your plan.
>> And there is more...
>>
>> 2. CB is HUGE. It has more dependencies than my otherwise huge project.
>> By adding a CB project to my code, the deps/ dir will more than double. The
>> build time will more than double. The release package will grow a lot too.
>> I certainly don't need (or want to) ship MongoDB libraries with my project.
>>
>> 3. I don't need most of CB. And I suspect the greater part of the
>> seasoned Erlang developers don't either. I don't need Models, BossDB. In
>> such projects usually the data is retrieved from other parts of the Erlang
>> system. They on the other hand might, or might not talk to different (or
>> no) databses, third party services etc. Most of the time I don't need
>> Templates, as I usually create JSON/REST APIs with no HTML generation. I
>> just want an easy way to add some http/websockets functionality to my
>> project. And no, I no more want to "just use Cowboy/Webmachine", as I end
>> up with a custom framework around it. And it usually ends up not very well
>> designed, and hard to maintain.
>>
>>
>> So, have you guys thought about the possibility of extracting a "Chicago
>> Minion" out of the "Chicago Boss". Very much like riak_core ended up being
>> a dependency to Riak, and usable by third parties.
>>
>> As I see it, it would be Routing + Controllers + Websockets in a well
>> packaged OTP compliant application. Very slim and with the bare minimum of
>> dependencies.
>> And then, maybe have also BossDb, Models, Sessions etc. in separate OTP
>> packages. And still have the huge "Chicago Boss" meta-package that does
>> exactly what it does now (or better).
>>
>> So, my questions are:
>>
>> 1. Do you guys think this is possible, or feasible with the current code
>> base (I haven't read it).
>> 2. Do you think it's a good idea?
>>
>> If you decide to take on such a direction, I would offer some help with
>> it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Metin
>>
>>
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