Jen, 
I totally agree with you. The raw diet is fantastic, and there is such
a huge difference between the digestion of humans and the digestion of
animals that the bacteria in meat being toxic to dogs is just not
true. The only thing I have ever heard that you shouldn't feed is pork
as it can cause trichanosis. (funnily enough a man-produced bacteria
strain). Not to mention that a dog will bury a bone and dig it up
weeks later and feast on the rotting stinky thing with no ill-effects. 

Do you make your recipe or do you buy it? I make mine, and it works
pretty well, I have a butcher near me who sells grind ends for cheap,
my only concern is finding the right supplement. right now I am using
a smidge of spirulina for minerals and vitamens, but am thinking of
growing some wheat grass this summer for a little addition. 

I used to make the boys stew and pour it over kibbles, but my chi is
getting a little chunky and the mini pin (a new addition) is a
diabetic and this diet was specifically suggested as being best for
him. It is working well.

A holistic vet is a must for this type of diet aswell. I wish there
were more in Ottawa where I am. 

--- In [email protected], Jen-CA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>   You need to find holistic vets.  Vets do not go to vet school to
study nutrition that is why they offer Science Diet at their offices.
 One of the worse dog foods on the market plus the get a pretty good
size commission.  Raw feeding is one of the most natural ways to feed.
 Do you think they hunted Iams in the wild? just because they are
domesticated does not make them any less of an animal.  do we feed our
lions and snakes Lion and snake kibble? NO we feed them what they
would get in the wild, now why do we insist on doing our dogs
differently?   They eat what we give them because they have no choice.
 If you stick raw meat down on the ground and your dogs current
favorite food and lets see what they choose.  How many times do you
take your dog to the vet to be put under dangerous anesthetic to get
its teeth cleaned from tarter build up?  Where on earth does that
tarter come from? Do you think Kibble cleans the teeth? Do cookies
clean ours? lol With the natural diet
>  there is no need for teeth cleaning.  
>    
>   Study the dogs immune system and find out that ecoli and semolina
breaks down in dogs differently. to say a dog is just like us is just
plan uneducated.  We are no more like dogs as we are bears, cats,
birds.  We all have our own way of processing foods differently.  I
sure would not eat dog food either.  And why so much corn in the dog
food? Ever have a real bad shedding dog? ever have a scratching dry
skin dog? allergies to grains.  Real common.
>    
>   Study away! and buy a few holistic books as well, some state
grains and what each one does for our dog but most BARF freeders do
not use grains.  The only time a dog gets grains is in the stomach of
its prey.  So grains, fruits and Veggies are really not necessary but
some offer it.  Good luck with the studies, also type in "dog food
processing plants" in your search engine read some of those articles
:-( nasty.  
>    
>   Jen-CA
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> Kay Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Katie,
> Please think long and hard about raw food.  Now carrots or potatoes or
> celery or grapes are fine.  But please, have you researched eating raw
> meat?   Every single thing that a human can get from eating raw or
> unprocessed meat a dog or cat can get too.  And with bird flu and the
> problem with eggs, I'd be darn careful.   Do your homework and I do
> mean to look at more then just the sites that says how wonderful it
> it, look at some of the sites that also tell the pit falls of this
> practice.
> 
> It's a fad that comes and goes every few years. But I have yet to meet
> a Vet that will recommend raw meat, especially beef or chicken for any
> animal.   
> 
> Why not look into all the homemade cooked dog food receipts before
> putting your Chi's health on the line.  As long as good vitamins and
> minerals and all that are added or given to the dog daily most home
> made dog food is great.  Commercial dog foods didn't even get popular
> until the 60's, before that everyone cooked for their dogs.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], kaaterwaul@ wrote:
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> > Does anyone have a web site for a good complete RAW  diet that has
home 
> > delivery?  I only have the one chi(two soon), and I  don't live very
> close to pet 
> > stores. 
> > thanks
> > katie
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