Thank you I did not know any of this information. I will discuss it with his
vet. I told her that he had been eating fruit for his main food source and she
didn't seem too worried about it , but i will address this with her. I just
got him home tonight from the vet they kept him overnight last night thursday
night with Iv.He seems alot better today. Just ate a few treats for me though
but I think he''s just mainly worn out from all that has been going on. In
answer to your question I am in Brunswick Georgia. I wondered about his
condition with his liver because his mother nor his sister really have any
problems with their liver. So couldn't figure out why he would. Vet is saying
she thinks he may have a liver shunt but I want to keep an eye on him and his
liver levels and see how he does. What do you think ?
Thanks again for all the information, and I'll keep in touch and let you
know how this progresses.
Deloris Depp
Lil Man's MOM
dogmom60634 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jessica - There's really no nice way to say this, so I'm just going
to say it. You are either not fully explaining this situation to
your vet or you need to get a second opinion IMMEDIATELY. If your
dog has been eating nothing but peaches and pears for the past
several months as you said I'm not surprised he's having the problems
he is. Frankly, he's lucky it's not worse.
First of all, he is not hypoglycemic. With all the glucose in all
that fruit he is hyperglycemic. Stop feeding him extra sugar. He's
shakey because he's weak and he may be starting to have neurological
issues - probably from potassium toxicity.
He's horrifyingly deficient in many key nutrients and probably at
toxic levels of others. My first concern is his protein deficiecy.
Dogs need a variety of nutrients, including protein, fat, fiber,
vitamins and minerals. Protein accounts for about 50 percent of the
dry matter in a dog's body and is an essential component of every
cell in the body. It is important in body structure, such as in
muscle, hair, bone and organs. Plus, protein is critical in
functions, including carrying oxygen in the blood, defending the body
against infections and digesting food. The dietary protein not
utilized in support of these areas can be burned as energy.
Although protein is considered necessary for healthy dogs, it is not
actually protein that is used, but rather the amino acids of the
protein. A protein molecule contains thousands of amino acids. The
body can make some amino acids, while others, called essential amino
acids, must be supplied by the diet. Ten amino acids considered
essential to dogs are histidine, isoleucine, leucine, arginine,
methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, valine and lysine.
The absence of even one amino acid will influence how dogs utilize
the rest. Protein deficiency symptoms, which are actually amino acids
deficiency symptoms, include depressed appetite, poor growth, loss of
weight, rough and dull haircoat, impaired immune function, irregular
estrus, lower reproductive performance and reduced milk production.
Also of major concern to me is his vitaminitosis - both hyper and
hypo. Of particular conern to me is his copper level. I would
imagine he very, very close to (if not suffering from) copper
toxicosis. The first 2 stages do not usually have clinical symptoms,
however the 3rd stage does. In Stage 3, the dog becomes clinically
ill, and may have anorexia, depression, vomiting, abdominal pain,
polydipsia, polyuria, icterus, jaundice, ascites, and encephalopathy.
Weight loss is the predominant indicator, and in some dogs, is the
only sign. The clinical signs are usually the result of liver
necrosis, triggered when copper concentrations exceed 2,000 ppm DW.
Pears are very, very high in potassium. With no other nutrients to
help balance out the potassium, he may be at toxic levels. Potassium
is a key nutrient in maintaining a healthy nervous system. May
explain his shakiness.
The list goes on and on. I dont' know where you are located so I
can't really offer anything other then information here. I wish I
could see him and run a complete blood panel, among other things.
You need to either fully explain this situation to your vet. If you
have and are sure that your vet understands what this little guy has
been eating for the past several months, then - and I can't stress
this strongly enough - get a second opinion NOW.
--- In [email protected], Jessica Wolinski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The is a vitamin call Nutical and its high in sugar too... Its good
for them and I know my baby luvs it.. so I give it to her as a treat
sometimes now.. You should be able to get it from His doctor and/or
Petsmart..
>
> Deloris Depp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: His levels were
high and the vet put him on denosyl, and his levels came down. I took
him to the vet this morning and the last time I had him at the vet
his level was 150 today it was 250. The doctor gave him sub q fluids
and a shot for nauseau. She sent me home with antibotic and marin
which she said works with the denosyl for his liver I told the doctor
a couple of days ago he was kinda shaky and I thought it was
hypoglycemia, so I gave him a few sips of sweet tea. I later found
out that the caffeine in tea was almost as bad as chocolate. I told
the vet about this , this morning and she didn't seem too worried
about it since it had been a couple of days ago that he had the tea.
> He is still not wanting to eat , but is drinking and going
peepee. So I've been keeping him hyped up with hical to make sure he
doesn't get too weak and hypoglycemia doesn't pop back up.
> Thanks for writing back , and please I'd appreciate any advise
you may have.
> Thanks Deloris
> LilMan's Mom
>
> Jessica Wolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deloris,
>
> What kind of Liver problems do he have?
>
> dogmom60634 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you tell me if your little guy has only been eating
peaches and
> pears the past few days or if this has been going on for awhile?
>
> --- In [email protected], Deloris Depp <lilman31523@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have a little male chi, who has had liver problems in the
past .
> The vet has him on 90mg tablets of denosyl which he is given every
> morning. For the last few days he hasn't been eating and his little
> tummy has been rumbling. When he goes outside to go potty he seems
to
> have a little problem with balance but not bad. I want to also add
> here that the only thing that he will eat is peaches and pears .
Vet
> said that the fruit was good for him and haven't had any problems
> until now. Called my vet tonight and she's going to take a look at
> him in the morning. Does anyone in this group have any suggestions
on
> how to make him more comfortable tonight or has anyone else had any
> problems like this.
> > Thank you
> > Deloris
> > Little Man's Mom
> >
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