Thank you so much for the information Gregg. He is a 7-year-old neutered Chi on 
phenobarbital for seizures. I can't help but think that this may have something 
to do with it. My Vet said no. She did check his urine for bacteria and it was 
loaded. He was on antibiotics first, it got rid of the bacteria but he still 
struggled to urinate. That's when she x-rayed him and found stones. The stones 
were sent to the lab for analysis. She said his target pH sould be 7.0 - 7.1.
   
  She wants him on Science Diet u/d. Also he is obese because of the 
phenobarbital. I refused to put him on Science Diet. He is such a good dog and 
seems to be doing well since his surgery.
   
  Even though he is obese he runs around like a puppy and I do walk him 
frequently.
  The breeder is a friend of mine, he was an emergency c-section baby born blue 
but he survived. He is a big Chi 22lbs.
   
  I will give your recommendations a try and test his pH on a regular basis. 
You have been most informative, thank you.
  Mary Beth

Gregg Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
            Mary Beth,
  I'm sorry to hear that your Chi is struggling with kindey/bladder stones. How 
old is your Chi? Is he/she a male or female? 
   
  There are several factors that can cause stones. Some of the most common are:
    
     Urine pH. pH is an indicator of acidity level. It can be measured via 
hydrogen ion concentration. a pH of 7 is neutral, below 7 is acidic and above 7 
is alkaline. Generally, dogs tend to have slightly acidic urine around 6 - 6.5. 
Unfortunately, calcium oxalate stones have a propensity to form in acidic to 
neutral urine. Urine pH needs to be measure immediately upon voiding from the 
bladder for it to be accurate. Hopefully, your vet checked this while assessing 
your Chi's symptoms. If the pH was low then you can reduce the acidity of your 
Chi's diet to reduce the likelyhood of stone formation. The addition of 1 
tablespoon of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) or better yet, potassium 
bicarbonate per liter of water to your Chi's water and/or food may help.  

  
     Bacterial infection. The vet should have cultured the inside of one of the 
stones to determine if bacteria is the cause, since urine is supposed to be 
sterile. If the vet neglected to perform this step, then I'd recommend looking 
for another vet. You can still have a culture performed of your Chi's urine 
without the stones, but it must be performed against a fresh sample of urine, 
because bacteria will invade it very quickly once it leaves the body. If the 
culture is positive, then the vet can test several antibiotics on it to see 
which is most effective. and treat the Chi with that antibiotic.  

  
     Dehydration. Insufficient liquid intake can result in a higher 
concentration of minerals in the urine. This can result in more frequent 
occurance of stones. Encourage your Chi to drink lots of water.  

  
     Infrequent urination. The longer the urine stays in the bladder, the more 
likely the minerals can condense and crystalize to form stones. Try to 
encourage your Chi to urinate 6 or more times a day if he/she is prone to 
stones.  

  
     Hard water. If you liive near the beach or other lowland areas, then your 
tap water is likely hard, meaning that it has a higher mineral content than 
normal. You can use a water filter to reduce the mineral content of the water, 
or even buy distilled water to eliminate all mineral content, if your Chi has 
ongoing struggles with stones. Avoid spring water, however, since it can also 
be high in mineral content.  

  
     Diet. An imbalance of nutrients or a diet that is too high in certain 
minerals or too low in others can increase the likelyhood of stone formation. 
This is a very complex topic and there are dozens of chemical processes that 
can be involved. in general however, since you mention that the stones are 
calcium oxolate, increase the amount of magnesium, phosphorus, and calcium in 
the diet. Increasing dietary magnesium and phosphorus decreases the amount of 
calcium in the urine, and increasing dietary calcium reduces absorption of 
oxalates from the intestines. Potassium citrate may help prevent calcium 
oxalate stone formation because it forms a soluble complex with oxalates and 
promotes the formation of alkaline urine. Some people use 1 tablespoon of 
potassium citrate combined with a tablespoon of potassium bicarbonate mentioned 
above in a 1:1 ratio added per liter of water as a preventative.  

  
     Genetic factors. There isn't a lot you can do about this, but some dogs 
are just predisposed to the formation of stones because of abnormaltites or 
genetic mutations. You can ask your breeder if other owners have reported 
problems with their Chi's. If it turns out that your Chi is prone, then I would 
recommend using most or all of the tips mentioned above to help minimize the 
frequency and severity of stone fomation.  

  
     Disease. Sometimes kidney/bladder stones are symptoms of another illness. 
A thorough medical evaluation is recommended to help rule out other health 
problems.  

  
     Aging. Some dogs, especially males, become more prone to stone formation 
as they age because of changes in hormone levels. In addition to the 
preventative measures mentioned above, hormone replacement therapy may also be 
a possible solution. 

  I hope this helps. Please let us know if you discover any other tips that 
help.
  Gregg Dickson
http://www.ChihuahuaFanatics.com/

  --- In [email protected], "farmermarybeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Does anyone have experience with bladder stones? My chi recently 
> had stones removed and I am trying to figure out a diet to keep his pH 
> level 7.0 - 7.1 and stones from reoccuring.
> Mary Beth
>

  

         

       
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