I do. Raw bones are wonderful for dogs. I don't have an agenda either. I feed raw and my dogs are doing great as are my cats. They don't need supplements, veggies, fruits etc. This is how I feed my dogs. But saying that dogs need these things w/o proving it is pushing an agenda. Also the myth of the roughage has been so bent out of shape. Sheila
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trisha S. Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Hill's Prescription diet t/d canine Sure they do. Carnivores eat bones which are bulk forming. We don't feed our dogs bones. In the wild they will eat grasses, and berries. They aren't the sold forms of food for wild canines but they are eaten. Also when a small animal is eaten whole like a mouse etc the stomach is eaten and so to is that roughage. We have taken dogs and put them in our world, bent and shaped them to fit our ideals on what food is. We have our own preconceived ideas on what we want our dogs to eat. I feel a lot of people on the forum have a personal agenda when it comes to dog food. Sorry, but that is my honest feeling. I have always said, if your dog os doing great on a certain food, then that is the right food for your dog. I don't have an agenda to push. Trish Not all those who wander are lost.... --- On Thu, 7/3/08, dasha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: dasha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Hill's Prescription diet t/d canine > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 8:01 AM > I disagree that dogs need this fiber or fillers. Carnivores do not > need this Sheila > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trisha S. > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Hill's Prescription diet t/d canine > > > WE need fiber in our diets. It's bulk forming in the colon to wash > out the bad stuff. Not all fillers are evil. > Heck I eat an all grain bread that's as heavy as a brick because of > the fact it is filled with fiber. > Roughage is good for you and your dogs, plus it helps clean the teeth > by being abrasive. > > Trish > > Not all those who wander are lost.... > > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, HELEN PEAGRAM > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: HELEN PEAGRAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Hill's Prescription diet > t/d canine > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 9:50 PM Ok, it's a > form of fibre. > > Another filler. > > > > > > Only you and God know your heart. > > > > > > > > Helen > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Trisha S. > > Date: 07/02/08 22:02:53 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Hill's Prescription diet > t/d canine > > > > From Wiki. So no it's not JUST paper. It's > always good to do some > > research before posting. Cellulose is natural and it > can be used to > > make paper...if you read further you can see for > yourself... > > > > Trish > > > > Cellulose > > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > > > > > > Cellulose, a linear polymer of D-glucose linked by > β(1→4)-glycosidic > > bonds. > > > > > > Three-dimensional structure of cellulose, with four > glucose units > > visible. > > (Black=carbon; red=oxygen; white=hydrogen.) > > > > > > Space-filling model of cellulose, with four glucose > units visible > > Cellulose is an organic compound with the formula > (C6H10O5)n, a > > polysaccharide consisting of a linear chain of several > hundred to over > > nine thousand β(1→4) linked D-glucose units.[1][2] > Cellulose is the > > structural component of the primary cell wall of green > plants, many > > forms of algae and the oomycetes. Some species of > bacteria secrete it > > to form biofilms. Cellulose is the most common organic > compound on > > Earth. About 33 percent of all plant matter is > cellulose (the > > cellulose content of cotton is 90 percent and that of > wood is 50 > > percent).[3] For industrial use, cellulose is mainly > obtained from > > wood pulp and cotton. > > It is mainly used to produce cardboard and paper; to a > smaller extent > > it is converted into a wide variety of derivative > products such as > > cellophane and rayon. > > Some animals, particularly ruminants and termites, can > digest > > cellulose with the help of symbiotic micro-organisms > that live in > > their guts. Cellulose is not digestible by humans and > is often > > referred to as 'dietary fiber' or > roughage', acting as a hydrophilic > > bulking agent for feces. > > > > Not all those who wander are lost.... > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, HELEN PEAGRAM > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: HELEN PEAGRAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Hill's Prescription > diet > > t/d canine > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 8:56 PM Powdered > cellulose??? That's > > > paper! > > > > > > > > > Only you and God know your heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Helen > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Date: 02/07/2008 8:18:10 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [Chihuahuas] Hill's Prescription > diet > > t/d > > > canine > > > > > > i got this from my vet, but i only let her have > one a > > day > > > for a couple > > > reasons... > > > > > > 1. they are REALLY BIG and i use them as treats > > rather > > > than food > > > > > > 2. they say they are for reducing plaque and > tartar buildup, and > > > she doesn t have any that i have seen so far. > > > > > > 3. the vet has them on the counter as treats for > the > > dogs > > > as treats for > > > after visits and Veneno LOVES them! > > > > > > here are the ingredients, are they TOTAL garbage? > or > > do > > > you think they are > > > OK? > > > > > > t/d canine > > > > > > Ingredients > > > Brewers Rice, Ground Whole Grain Corn, Chicken > > By-Product > > > Meal, Powdered > > > Cellulose, Pork Fat (preserved with mixed > tocopherols > > and > > > citric acid), > > > Soybean Mill Run, Soybean Oil, Chicken Liver > Flavor, Calcium > > > Sulfate, Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Iodized > Salt, Choline > > > Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins > (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate > > (source of > > > vitamin C), > > > Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine > Mononitrate, > > Vitamin > > > A Supplement, > > > Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 > Supplement, Pyridoxine > > > Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 > Supplement), > > > Taurine, preserved with BHT and BHA, minerals > (Ferrous Sulfate, > > Zinc > > > Oxide, Copper > > > Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium > > Selenite), > > > Beta-Carotene. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows > and > > the > > > live music scene in your > > > area - Check out TourTracker.com! > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > " Lets talk about our wonderful little friends! > > Join today! 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