use the skin its great for coat and keeping on weight... everything is so lean they need some fat...when you feed whole they tend to eat the skin first get full quit for a while ad a meal of just skin can piss off the pancreas..... ground into the whole bone and meat its best... darcy
--- On Wed, 11/17/10, Ellen <[email protected]> wrote: From: Ellen <[email protected]> Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again.. To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 7:32 PM With the skin or with out? Also when you grind it do you keep the skin on it to grind as well? I recently found some dehydrated chicken fillets to give as snaks to Sissy and she loves them! Ellen --- In [email protected], Darcy Jacobs <flyway7...@...> wrote: > > wings are a great first food!! for a chi... my danes got quarters whole. > darcy > > --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> wrote: > > > From: Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again.. > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 6:40 PM > > >  > > > > > > > >  Simple raw diet for Ricky...start with Chicken breasts...cut in in little > pieces he won't chock on...don't feed skin. Let him have fun chewing on the > bones. Or...just toss the kid a wing!!! > Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, > Deanna > >                                                             > and >  The Dog Park Pack: > Nugget, Shuai-Li, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, and Caleb and honorary non-dog > members of The Dog Park: > Stella-Macaw, Stanley-Amazon, Miles the cat > www.joys4toys.com > > > > > > > From: Kavi <kaviescontin...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 3:21:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again.. > >  > > > > > > Hey Peggy > > I did try Ricky on Wellness recently. I did the small breed chicken kibble > too along with canned. Yes the wellness kibble was the first he had ever > eaten, but now it just sits in the bowl. he never eats it. (money down the > drain) and even the freshpet select that I buy, he still eats it but very > little and I have been throwing alot away. As far as by-products in dog food, > I understand what you are saying. If you do a google on dog food by products > you will find out the difference. what goes into dog food is nasty old > diseased, road killed, rotten animal parts. With raw feeding, you are giving > them fresh wholesome meat from our stores. In the wild, animals do not eat > old, rotten, diseased, road killed animals, they kill there food and eat it > right then when its concidered fresh. raw bones do not splitter. cooked bones > do. bigger dogs can eat the bones raw as they come...but I myself would chop > up the bones for my Ricky. I would think it would be > cheaper also, if you just have one or 2 small dogs. You can get chicken > marked down at the store, chop it up and freeze it. I know for a fact, that I > will never ever feed Ricky any food that has by-products or other crap in it. > If I dont feed raw, then I will cook human meat for Ricky. The way I look at > it now, is: "Would I eat that"? meaning the raw food I would feed Ricky would > I eat if I can cook it. > Would I eat dog food out of a can? not unless I have not eaten in a month > and needed to do it to stay alive. Many dogs do not have a choice between > better or raw food, or canned crapy food that they are fed. they can not talk > to us and tell us and they can not cook or shop for them selves. (I am being > a bit extreme here... but) these are our babies we love so much. part of our > family like a child. we spoil them rotten, why not feed them that way? > > I would just like a simple raw diet for Ricky as I said in my orignal post. > > Shanna > > > > > From: Peggy & The Girls <phr...@...> > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again.. > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 1:47 PM > > >  > > > For any one who can answer my questions to: >  > From what I understand is that a dog has to be on all raw or on all kibble > diet, I have gotten the impression that you can't mix both. Or maybe I am > wrong? I also understand that if you go raw, they have to have the bones as > well, and in order to avoid splinters from the bones, it Has to be grinded. > Yet someone posted a picture of their dogs eating a whole > raw turkey, so I am confused on the grinding issue!!  I would think for a > dog that doesn't have a lot of teeth like my Gigi (I adopted her that way) > that raw wouldn't be a good idea because she can't chew as good as she > should. Which also makes me wonder what will raw fed owners do when their > Chi's get into their senior years and loose teeth? >  > I am also confused about people saying that the by products of chicken and > beef is bad for dogs, yet, if you feed raw, they Are eating the by-products > of the animal, so what's the difference? >  > What I also find interesting is that I had two Maltese PM puppies (RIP) that > were supposedly never to have made it past the first couple of days that I > owned them because they were so sick with being overdosed with Parvo shots, > were on a diet of Iams kibble and milk bones for their whole life and never > saw a Vet except for their shots, and only had their teeth cleaned once, and > never lost any teeth, and yet they both lived to 14 yrs and 16.6 years old, > with no health issues. The only people food that they ever had was egg and > cheese. I had always kept them on a strict diet of their own food and never > gave them the leftovers. It just makes me wonder if all of the controversy > over raw and natural kibble diets is really worth it. In fact I look back at > all the dogs that I had prior to the Malteses, and they all lived to 14 to > over 16 years old and never saw a Vet. None were ever on HW and Flea Spot > stuff either. Some never even had Boosters or > a Rabies shots either. I some times think that more health issues are > related to the shots and flea and HW stuff then their diet. And Iams > kibble was the only food I ever fed any of them. They were all different > breeds to. It all just makes me wonder.. >  > I'm not a raw feeder, but I wanted to tell you that if Ricky is a picky > eater, like my Princess is, then, have you ever tried the Wellness Chicken > kibble? Princess has never been big on eating, but now that she has been on > the Wellness Chicken, she looks forward to meal time and even ask for > seconds, They breed and raise their own chickens and everything is processed > in their own plant, so you don't have to worry about cross contamination. > It's mostly pure chicken plus veggies and the omegas are added in, no > fillers, preservatives,artificial colors etc.. The chicken type is a larger > chunk, so for Gigi, I put her portion in the blender and chop it smaller, and > I have noticed by doing this that she is not downing the chunks, but now > takes her time in eating it. >  > I did not like the turkey and fish blend, which is marked for small breeds > because her poop and breath stank. She actually likes the Chicken better.The > chicken blend is called Super 5 Complete Health blend and is all natural. I > tried other brands and this was an instant hit. Their canned chicken is 95% > pure chicken. If you email them, they may send you samples. >  > http://www.wellnesspetfood.com/product-details.aspx?pet=dog&pid=52&dm=completehealth > >  > > > ♥ Peggy & The Girls ♥ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kavi <kaviescontin...@...> > To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 2:54 pm > Subject: [Chihuahuas] OK, lets talk Raw Feeding again... > > >  > > > > > > > > Hi everyone > > I know we have about exhausted the raw feeding talk. I want to start feeding > Ricky Raw. He likes our food so much that I am waisting money on dog food. So > I would just like a very simple recipe for Ricky. I do not want to grind up > food. I just want to mix like raw beef, turkey, or chicken, the livers etc > with veggies and whatever else. what about vitamins? He will get all the > vitamins he needs in raw? > > A meat, livers, veggies? and what about the raw bones? can I just put them in > a baggie and use a hammer and crush them? > > I can read about raw feeding online, but who better to ask than the ones who > do it here! > > Thanks > shanna >
