Re: [Chihuahuas] Madison and Myrtle got new sweaters today!!!

Mon, 07 Feb 2011 08:40:04 -0800

Hi Joan,
   I find it very interesting about Desi and thoroughly enjoy hearing about him.
Thanks for sharing him with us.   It sure all sounds fishy to me, it really does.
But he is such a personality I don't think I'd want to change a thing about him
unless it is the medical things.   Is there a picture of him in the photo section?
   mj and benji




-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Croft <[email protected]>
To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 9:31 pm
Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Madison and Myrtle got new sweaters today!!!

 
Yeah…I actually got Dolly at Petland.  She already had her umbilical hernia repaired, she was already microchipped, and although she had a severe respiratory infection that took three weeks to clear, she is very near perfect.  I am glad that she was only with the breeder until she was seven weeks old, and I got her when she was eight weeks old.  I was very upset when I heard that Petland gets their puppies from puppy mills, and therefore I searched out a local breeder for a sibling for her.  All in all, I think that Dolly probably came from a more conscientious breeder than Desi did.  Dolly was AKC registered, and Desi has some NAPDR (??) North American Purebred Dog Registry…and I could send in paperwork for a dalmation and say that it is a Chihuahua.  The breeder said that there was a mistake made by the NAPDR on his certificate showing a different sire’s name.  She told me that she called them and they fixed it. I called the registery about two or three months afterwards maybe trying to get an answer if his father was actually registered (the breeder said that she got his father at a pet store so she assumed that he was purebred…how funny is that?) After I found out about Desi and the only way that he had the testicle undescended and not attached to anything inside was if the sire had the same condition or if he was the puppy of parents that were too closely bred.  His father was supposedly 4 ½ lbs and his mother 5 ½ lbs…Desi Lou is 9.3 lbs without any fat right now.  I actually wonder if his actual father was another dog that she had that may not have been registered.  I will never know, so I will continue to take care of Desi and whatever else may show up in him in the future.  My vet says that he believes that he is purebred Chihuahua but he has a total different look to him.  He has a HUGE head…at 3 months old, his head was bigger than Dolly’s.  His head faces down a bit whereas Dolly and all other Chihuahuas that I have see actually look straight ahead.
I love them both…I will do whatever needs to be done to keep them happy and healthy.
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peggy & The Girls
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 7:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Madison and Myrtle got new sweaters today!!!
 
 
Breeders will post what they want on their website's, and post pictures of puppies that probably were from 27 litters ago.  I have had Desi for a year and a half and the breeder still has the same pictures for available dogs on her website.  Just because someone purports to be a breeder, does not mean that they are a reputable breeder.
Well said Joan. We have to be very, very, careful. A person can always check with D&B
for their website and any consumer complaints.
 
 
    Peggy & The Girls
 
Don't Buy, Adopt & Save A Life!
                 
                  
"Until there are none...Rescue One"
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Joan Croft
Date: 2/6/2011 8:53:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Madison and Myrtle got new sweaters today!!!
 
 
I got Desi from a local breeder who was breeding for over 20 years.  Her house was neat and the puppies were in different gated areas.  But…she did not remove dewclaws when it would not have hurt them at all before the blood flow develops to them; she let the puppies free feed and I think Desi ate almost everything that was in the bowls and was on a diet from the time that I got him until he was 10 months old…so much fat on him that our vet said to take him off of puppy food at 4 months because he had way too much fat to continue with higher calorie puppy food.  She was using a male that had a medical problem that would prohibit a reputable breeder from using him as a breeding male because the problem is passed on to every male puppy.  I do love Desi dearly, but he has had to endure additional pain because of the things that she did wrong.  Desi was neutered before he was 4 months old…he did not lift his leg to potty before that and didn’t start until a couple months later.  Dolly is a little sweetheart and wants to be Mommy’s girl.  Desi is a little entertainer and he, too, wants to be Mommy’s boy.  I don’t think that the characteristics are true and that every puppy is an individual with traits that run in both sexes.
Breeders will post what they want on their websites, and post pictures of puppies that probably were from 27 litters ago.  I have had Desi for a year and a half and the breeder still has the same pictures for available dogs on her website.  Just because someone purports to be a breeder, does not mean that they are a reputable breeder.
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 5:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Madison and Myrtle got new sweaters today!!!
 
 
Thanks Deanna, so much for what makes sense and seems like really sound advice. You are the voice of experience, that's for certain, and I do really appreciate it.  I probably would be getting a puppy. I have located a 9 week-old puppy, "Cortney" at a place in Louisiana (Little Paws Kennel) that sounds like a reputable breeder.  She has been operating for 14 years and had lots of pictures posted of her facility and sounds as though anyone is welcome to tour her kennel.  I will talk to her tomorrow, probably inundate her with way too many questions .I see on her page where she recommends male puppies as being more happy to please their owners (for lack of a better word) because everyone is afraid of a male puppy being territorial and more readily given to leg lifting on furniture and said everyone seems to want a female puppy because of that misconception; if males are neutered before 6 months age that is not a problem that develops. She feels girls are more stubborn and headstrong and not as easy to handle.  I had another breeder tell me the same thing, that girls are more independent and not as affectionate as males. I'm sure it depends on the individual puppy also. I really had my heart set on a little girl, but will think it over, weighing all the different options.
Again, THANK YOU!
 
LYNN        
 
  In a message dated 2/6/2011 11:50:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
 
If during the initial introduction you have a cat that is calm and does not "react" negatively to the dogs hyper bounces and wiggles...then all goes well. Give the cat a way out and a position so that he can view the dog from afar. That may take some weeks before the cat feels safe enough to engage in a positive way. With a puppy, the cat sets the stage and determines how things will go. Do not make the mistake of keeping them separated. The only way this works is when one is a baby or you have a cat that is already use to dogs....or an adult dog with little to no prey drive. They have to have time and the right environment to meet in and then to get to know each other. Keeping them separated only heightens prey drive in the dog. I had two cats with my present pack and everything was great with everyone...except my son's pit who came here as an adult and saw cats as prey. With Miles (our big orange neutered male)...because of Mile's calm demeanor and intelligence there was no issue...but with Brewster...our very moody...not so smart Hymmie, things were not good. That pit, Max and Brewster where the only two issues I have ever had my whole life with one of my dogs and my cats. I didn't raise Maxine...she spent her first 2 years with my son in a very angry environment...she really was not a part of our pack and had little to no manners and a VERY high prey drive...she was prey aggressive big time. Brewster lives with my friend now because I just wouldn't take any chances...but after a good solid 18 months, Maxine is now totally 100% bomb proof around cats...it took a lot of work and my son still keeps up the socialization and work. She is NOT bomb proof with other outside animals like squirrels or birds...she wants to get them and play!!! Just like a squeaky toy.  Realize too that a dog with squeaky toys that shakes them and plays really rough with them is attacking prey...that squeak spurs them on to attack...we are simulating prey when we give our dogs squeaky toys....which isn't a bad thing UNLESS you have a dog with a high prey drive...then you are just feeding the unwanted behavior. So...my advice is start with a puppy and all should go well...or a cat who is already confident around dogs...or an adult dog that has little to no prey drive...maybe one that has a positive history with cats. Just my 2 cents from the dog park!
 
  Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park,
     Deanna
 
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 The Dog Park Pack:
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  and honorary non-dog members of The Dog Park:
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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 6:59:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Madison and Myrtle got new sweaters today!!!

 
Some Chis get along with cats, some don't.  There are people on this list who could probably give you advise on how to encourage it to happen.
 
Gloria
 
 

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