Here is the way that I see it:

We are all members of this group.  We all want to post when we have a 
particular problem, or when we have something good to share.

Those of you that have had abused rescues or even just those chis that were 
rescued from a shelter – not necessarily abused because there are many reasons 
that dogs end up in the shelters…the biggest where I live is the pet population 
that were in happy homes that were foreclosed on; the owners of those dogs move 
to apartments or other homes where pets are not allowed.  Sometimes they place 
ads to find a home, but there is a time limit because the bank is not going to 
be kind and tell them to not worry about moving out until they find a home for 
their pet.  There are some pets that are in the shelter because their owners 
have passed away or have had to go to skilled nursing facilities.  I may have 
missed the original posts about Charlotte, but I think somewhere it was said 
that she was 3 months old.

I got Desi when he was 8 weeks old.  I didn’t have him very long the first time 
that he growled at me when I tried to move him when he was sleeping.  But…HE 
WAS SLEEPING!  When I moved him that first time that he did it, I did turn him 
on his back and tell him that he is not supposed to growl.  Over that week he 
did it a few more times and then I realized that he was sleeping, and I was 
trying to lift him a bit and that bothered him while he was sleeping.  I don’t 
think that I would be very happy if I was sleeping and then someone touched me 
and tried to make me move over.  If I was truly asleep, that would be from 
being asleep and being disturbed.  The few times that Dolly snapped – and it 
was just her teeth snapping…not at me or at Desi…she was laying on my lap in 
the recliner chair and I went to move the blanket that was falling off the side 
of Desi ready to drop on the floor.  I think she felt my sleeves go over her 
and then I was pulling back the blanket, so I scared her when she was sleeping. 
 

Peggy and Judy and whomever else posted about this and how to handle these 
aggressions with abused dogs.  I totally agree that this may be a huge warning 
sign that you have to train the dog for something.  I applaud you for adopting 
the abused dogs…that is very admirable.  However, from what I read of 
Charlotte, it was an issue of her sleeping and then when she heard or felt the 
presence of someone by her and she opened her eyes and saw this huge face (if 
you think of a 3 mo Chihuahua compared to a human’s face right up close…the 
automatic reflex was to snap.) I don’t recall reading that Charlotte bit her 
owner, just snapped from the shock of waking up and seeing the very large eyes, 
lips, teeth, etc. right next to her.  Like I said in a post yesterday, if you 
have been awaken during a deep sleep and you opened your eyes and you saw a 
person’s face right by you, you would jump up or scream faster than anything.  

In Desi’s case, I did turn him on his back and hold him loosely until his body 
relaxed.  Looking back, did I do the right thing?  I don’t know because I was 
teaching him not to growl and because of how young he was, I think maybe that 
taught him not to growl at people, but HE was sleeping and I woke him up.  Does 
he growl now, NO.  Subconsciously, I will talk to Dolly & Desi if I am going to 
move them – that is now.  That one incident when Desi was 9 weeks old…I realize 
that perhaps he shouldn’t have been rolled on his back (which is not abuse) due 
to the circumstances, but I have never heard him growl again unless he is in a 
deep sleep and I move him without talking to him.

So everyone is right in a way.  Yes, if a 3 month puppy growls, the first 
reaction is to nip it in the bud.  If the growling continues and it is only 
when you move a deep sleep puppy or when you are so close watching it and going 
to give it a kiss, then we just need to remember to talk before we move, or try 
to kiss the puppy.

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Judy Moon
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 4:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot

 

  

Someone can’t take good advice!

 

Judy Moon, a prayer warrior for Christ

"May grace and spiritual peace be yours from God our Father

and from the Lord Jesus Christ."

Jewell, Mary, Martha, Dakota, Becky, Nicky, Gabby, Joy (dogs)

Dark Angel, Peter, Paul, Leah, Sarah, Tag, Ruth, Esther (cats)

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of enjaelove
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:01 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE:Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot

 

  

Whoa! That WAS harsh! Please don't think all of us will respond to you this 
way. You have a legitimate concern. The breed has a reputation for tending 
toward a yappy, cranky nature. 

I understand you to say that you're simply concerned and want advice. 

 

I had similar concerns about Jake. But at 23 months, he is a curious, happy 
boy. Neither yappy nor nippy.

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>From : C.M.
Subject : Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot
 

After reading this message, I'm sorry I posted my question.

 

 

From: diana roller 
To: "[email protected]" 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot

 

  

Just because she doesnt like people in her face does not mean that she needs to 
be disciplined. Dogs have an instinct as to what people they can trust. Also, 
has anyone taken the time with her to socialize her ~ gently and over a period 
of time, NOT JUST A SNAP ON THE NOSE?????? It sounds like you are being way too 
impatiant with her as well as expecting too much too soon. Dogs are like kids, 
each personality is different. Maybe she just needs a little extra loving and 
gentle care.

I will take her off your hands if you like. I hate to see you both so upset.

Sincerely, Diana

 

 

From: sheila 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot

 

  

Yeah, I think you are over reacting. Itsy will do this because she does not 
like being startled or bothered when she is sleeping. I always make it a 
point to say her name name and here girl, come on girl time to go out. She 
is fine then. Don't get your feelings hurt, it is not personal, it is a 
reaction.

I guess my point is that not all things fit all dogs. Sounds to me like she 
just does not want to be bothered while she is resting. Not all dogs will 
always be alike.

Ask yourself how she is otherwise? Is this the only time she does that?

Sheila

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lynda
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 9:41 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] cranky behaviot

Hi Everyone,
I'm noticing some behavior in Charlotte (3 mos chi), that I have never 
experienced and do not like. My other 2 dogs are sweet, well behaved, 
loving, even tempered loves. I've worked with them & they are such wonderful 
dogs-well trained & very respectable. (altho they've trained me well too) 
LOL
I've noticed when I lean over to kiss Charlotte when she's sleeping she 
snaps @ my face. The first time she did this I was shocked! Did it again and 
couldn't believe it-my feelings were hurt. Then I went to move her & she 
growled. I gave her a 'no' command each time but she doesn't even react to 
the command. I tapped her nose once & said 'no', but she just curled up  
when back to sleep. I will not accept this behavior so I make a point of 
'bothering' her sometimes when she's sleeping so we can work on this. 
Anybody have any other ideas?
Lynda

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