Yes I have read a lot too on this subject before I changed my practices with my 
dogs, but this was really informative.  But it is like any change, the status 
quo is easier, and everyone is so worried about the ramifications of 
change..i.e.covering their collective asses from suit etc.. I truly believe 
that in time the good of the dog will outweigh the bureaucracy and titers will 
become less expensive as more vets and patients become comfortable with the 
process but for now it is tough sell. Not everyone is of the makeup to 
continually buck the system..that is why it is a personal decision.



________________________________
 From: Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 3:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas]  Rabies in US -Yearly Vaccines & Titers ---Emi
 

  
Emi,
Wow this video is so informative! Thank you for the link. I learned even more, 
and it explained my question about the titer levels and how effective they are. 
Dr. Schultz explained that the numbers mean nothing. The test only shows 
whether the dog is immune to each of the virus's or not.  He himself does not 
re-vaccinate any of his dogs and has proved for the past 30 years and that's a 
lot of dogs tested, that when it comes to Rabies and Distemper, and Parvo, and 
Adenovirus (hepatitis) which are the Core Virus's they are immune for life. The 
problem is that the law doesn't want to know whether your dog has an immunity 
to it, even if you can prove it with a titer test, so he has no choice but to 
say give the rabies shot every three yrs. He is pushing for 7yrs! Love the 
ending where they hint you can break the law, but say they cannot advocate to 
break the law.....to funny!
 
I don't know of any other way to get the test done at a lower rate. Dr. Schultz 
did say that there are two types of titer test and most are done by the 
Veterinary Schools, but he believes in the 'commercial' testing and said that 
is considered the Gold Standard. So I am going to do some more research on 
this, and ask my Vet which one she would send the blood out to be tested. 
Sending it a school where they are still learning doesn't sit with me to well, 
I would rather have the professional test done to make sure that there are no 
errors in the report.
 
Oh and he jarred my brain and then I remembered that it is not the actual virus 
that makes dogs sick immediately after it gets the shot, but it is the antigens 
that are added to the serum. The antigens are a substance that stimulates 
production of antibodies.  He explained that for years they were using Mercury 
as an antigen in people and animal vaccines. They stopped using Mercury in 
people vaccines because it is a metal poison and that is what gives the side 
effects, but they are still using it in dog vaccines. He said that they are 
still researching to find another alternative to Mercury but that it takes a 
long time to do that. However, the repeated use of the actual virus's in the 
serum does weaken the immunity level. 
 
Peggy & The Girls
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Emi-Mail
Date: 4/4/2012 9:11:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Rabies in US - Wa Yearly Vaccines
   
I would love to titer my 2 Chihuahuas instead of the rabies shot but when I 
asked my vet how much a titer would cost it was around $70.   Is there a way to 
get titers done more reasonable?  The only one my dogs get is rabies as they 
have already had their puppy shots and boosters.   Rabies are required every 
three years but I question that.  Here is a link about pet vaccines that is 
very interesting.  I found a list a long time ago from Dr. Ronald Schultz that 
gave how long the different vaccines last as far as they knew when the 
information was published.  They felt the vaccines could last longer than what 
they already had tested.  The YouTube is almost a hour long but very 
informative.
 
Link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Xd5ghnlJ4
 
Emi
 
 
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Pam Dean
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Rabies in US - Wa Yearly Vaccines
 
I agree.  If people would not treat Vets as Gods, and understand that there is 
a lot of politics and money making going on there, their pocket book and their 
pets would be better off.  Why blindly give a live vaccine without knowing if 
your pets need it?? and when a titer will give u the information you need?? I 
wonder how many of your vets out there even suggest to you that you might be 
able to avoid putting this crapola into your pet's body by checking a titer 
first?? I bet not many..cause a titer is a heck of a lot cheaper than these 
boosters.
 
  
 
     
 

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