could you check what is connected to the two slow databus lines? If they
are slower than the others  it would seem as if a too large load is
connected to them. Might be you could insert a buffer of some kind...

   Uwe.

Declan Moriarty wrote:
> 
> Was it Ingraham, Andrew who wrote on Friday 06 September 2002 19:36:
> > Declan,
> >
> > This all sounds familiar.  Didn't you have a very similar problem a few
> > years ago too?  Something involving NMOS CPUs and pull-ups?
> 
> I was rooting at this a few years ago. Some of the issue was fixed by pulling
> up one particular port on the cpu. That left me with some boartds with
> HD6340s which worked, some boards with 6840s which didn't, and couldn't be
> made to stand. I had stock, so it wasn't a great issue. but it never got
> properly sorted
> >
> > I haven't touched NMOS in ages (if ever) so I'm certainly no expert ... but
> > one might think that they all might have been designed with the same (TTL)
> > thresholds.  I suppose that would be wishful thinking.
> 
> AFAIK, the cmos thresholds are higher. The bus is clean enough, except for 2
> databus lines which have slow rises. Pulling these high kills the board,
> however. The Digital Signature Analyser has a funny impedance (Loads towards
> 1.4V) which distorts things, and generally it's a pain. Everything looks OK,
> or better. Faults don't show. But the X@$�"! boards don't work!
> 
> --
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> 
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> 
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