We wound up sticking with Ivex WinBoard.  I finally figured out how to do
the couple of things we were having trouble with from an old printed manual
I had on the shelf.  I hafta say I think WinBoard is really pretty good for
the money.

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> On Saturday 18 January 2003 06:03 am, Syd Levine \(AnaLog\) wrote:
> > I have used Ivex WinDraft for several years, and like it OK.  But I am
> > having trouble with WinBoard for doing a PCB layout.
> >
> > I do no want to spend thousands, but maybe would fork over a hundred or
two
> > or three if I have to.  Any suggestions for a good PCB program?  I know
this
> > has been discussed in here before, but I do not remember the outcome.
>
> In my new job I've spent the last week looking at PCB programs.
>
> It has to be Windows Based, which leaves out the good ones.  :-(
>
> http://www.autotraxeda.com/ can't be beat on price, it is *Free*.  No
limits
> of any kind.  Don't use autotrax-download.com any more, it only has old
stuff.
> I like it my self, easy to use with me coming from a Protel back ground.
> It may go Open Source and Linux some day.
> Boss is afraid of support issues because it is free (?).
>
> After looking at over  a dozzen packages (any thing above $2,000 for three
'seats'
> was not considered) we are down to two:
>
> A):
>
> http://www.cadsoft.de/ Eagle.
>
> B):
>
> http://www.labcenter.co.uk/ Proteus.
>
> I do have to say I *HATE* Proteus's web site, it doesn't even load in
Opera.
> You have to have Java just to get it up, I almost discounted them because
of that,
> had it been a home project I would have.  Since I was being paid to surf I
endured it.
>
> Back to the issue at hand:
>
> Good: Eagle has lots of support from 3rd parties, easy to customize etc.
>
> Bad:  Little/wrong/no documentation.
>
> Very Bad:  The user interface is tough to navigate, compared to some thing
like OrCAD or Protel (which is our combined
> back grounds).
>
>
> Proteus:
> Good:  Excellent documentation.  Large Libraries.  User interface does
what you expect when you click on some thing.
>
> Bad: Find very little in the way of third party support, doesn't seem to
be well known.
>
> Does have a really cool demo of the simulator.  There is a AVR driving
simulated LCD playing Chess.
> Doesn't play chess well, actually rather badly, but it is cool to watch
the nodes flash as it "thinks".
>
> Comments?
>
>
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