Are those resistors carbon-composite types from the 1960's?

In that case I wouldn't be so sure that you can eliminate them. We had
couple of those in a student lab I was teaching. Every once in a
while we found 5.6kohm devices with roughly 200ohms and/or vice versa.

These were unused resistors which were still in their original
package, not exposed to anything which might be considered harmful for
a resistor during the 30+ years of their shelf life...


   Uwe.

   

> Recently, Somebody Somewhere wrote these words
>> > These are venerable transistors in a TO5 can. The board is a Siemens
>> > part, which they have made 'obsolete' without replacing it. This is
>> > hardly surprising, as the devices are batch dated '6940'
>> >
>> > The board is basically a set of interconnected discrete bipolar
>> > logic gates, with some intermittent fault. I can find huge gain
>> > mismatches, and I want to replace the low gain devices.
>> 
>> I have to ask why you want to do that.  Classically, those circuits
>> were designed so that the low gain devices work just fine.  Excessive
>> gain can cause it's own problems.  ??

> I have this obsolete board from the Electricity Supply Board's Turlogh
> (pronounced Turlock) Hill plant which has an intermittent fault. It has
> diodes, resistors, and SST117s. I can eliminate the diodes, the
> resistors, and so am left looking at the transistors.

> When these boards classically went intermittent, what was the issue? No
> capacitors here, beyond a few pF. There's 100pF across one resistor.
> The caps don't leak. I can check and exercise them with Analogue 
> Signature Analysis.

>> 
>> Also, it appears that the SST11x series of JFETs is a clone of the
>> J11x series from a different time than the SST117.  I think it's
>> unlikely that a logic board would have been made from JFETs in 1969.

> That's another 'red herring' correctly categorised, then :-)
> -- 

>       With best Regards,


>       Declan Moriarty.

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