No repeater, direct. David
On 4/3/2020 11:32 AM, Bill Riess via chirp_users wrote: > I didn't see if the original message said this was via a repeater or direct. > If via a repeater, realize some repeaters have a slight delay, especially if > the carrier is allowed to drop between transmissions and/or it uses PL/DPL. > Some dual mode repeaters (analog/digital) can exhibit this behavior. Also, at > least one repeater in my area has a delay (1-2 seconds) on the first > transmission in a conversation to discourage "pinging" the repeater. > > Bill Riess > [email protected] > AKA: ([email protected]) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 14:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: chirp_users Digest, Vol 136, Issue 1 > > Send chirp_users mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of chirp_users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words (Bill Card) > 2. Re: Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words (Ray Hutchinson) > 3. Re: Replying to the list with a new (Dennis Wage) > 4. Re: Replying to the list with a new (W Paul Mills) > 5. Re: Replying to the list with a new (David) > 6. Re: Replying to the list with a new (D.J.J. Ring, Jr.) > 7. email / forum etiquette (NE1EE - Rich) > 8. Re: email / forum etiquette (Richard Shaw) > 9. Re: email / forum etiquette (NE1EE - Rich) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:31:42 -0700 > From: Bill Card <[email protected]> > Subject: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words > To: Post to Chirp Mailing List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <cadt+llucbhczz1bf67nk2tj7xoyt3xzzszfcxol8hejc4-2...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This is relating to the discussion about... > >>> "I am using a UV-5RA and it has about a sec delay before I hear the > other person talk is this normal or is there a setting someplace that I can > change? A real pain as it cuts off the other persons one or 2 first words." > > I've followed the discussion but haven't seen anyone mention that, if the > other person in your communication is using VOX, you'll lose the first few > words of his/her transmission. When I used to use it with CBs on motorcycles, > we had to blow into the mic, wait a second, then transmit to avoid loss of > the first few words. > > So it might not be your radio at all. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/8ae9763d/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 19:55:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: Ray Hutchinson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5RA...lost first words > To: Post to Chirp Mailing List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Another thought.? If this phenomenon of missing the first couple of words > happens when communication with a paticular individual, then perhaps that > individual is "Quick Keying", or not fully engaging the PTT on their radio > before speaking.? If this seems to be the case, encourage them to consciously > be sure they're pressing the PTT and pausing slightly before speaking.? This > is often a problem with newer or inexperienced operators in the Ham world > 73 de Ray, AE6H, WQXK637 > On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 12:33:37 PM PDT, Bill Card > <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is relating to the discussion about... >>> "I am using a UV-5RA and it has about a sec delay before I hear the other >>> person talk is this normal or is there a setting someplace that I can >>> change? A real pain as it cuts off the other persons one or 2 first words." > I've followed the discussion but haven't seen anyone mention that, if the > other person in your communication is using VOX, you'll lose the first few > words of his/her transmission. When I used to use it with CBs on motorcycles, > we had to blow into the mic, wait a second, then transmit to avoid loss of > the first few words. > So it might not be your radio at > all._______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to Ray at [email protected] To unsubscribe, send an > email to [email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/8221fcdd/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 15:34:47 -0500 > From: Dennis Wage <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Replying to the list with a new > To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <cae1d062ujsv7m6nw1um5s29k_loz5mdejvryfqawjoxvsnz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I don't even want to know, why you are trying to reinvent the wheel. > > Dennis M. Wage (W9BOQ) > > 245 Corum Hill Road > Castalian Springs, TN 37031 > (615) 310-4242 Cell > (615) 562-5128 Home > http://hammondb3organ.net > http://overdubs.net > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:23 AM NE1EE - Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> David asked if I got a new thread...so I logged into the email package >> to see. NO...my "new" subject is under a thread of Yaesu FT-7100 >> Baofeng UV-5RA >> showing the hijacked message >> >> My message appears in the same 5RA thread. >> I was under the impression that, though the standard called out the >> use of In-Reply-To, it was rarely used. Not the case here, as the mail >> package correctly identified the thread. I suppose that has some >> usefulness, because someone could preserve the thread and change the >> subject, providing a clue to someone of the thread content. >> >> So ... >> You need to start a new message. >> Mike, WB4TTZ >> >> is entirely correct. I'm glad I ran the test and got the answer to a >> pending question in my mind, though I didn't know how to find it. >> Thanks Mike! >> ~R~ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> chirp_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >> This message was sent to Dennis Wage at [email protected] To >> unsubscribe, send an email to >> [email protected] >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/f4b8ef6e/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:18:27 -0500 > From: W Paul Mills <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Replying to the list with a new > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/ae61daa4/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:16:03 -0500 > From: David <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Replying to the list with a new > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Ok another question, > > If I am responding to a post do I use "reply" or do I use "reply list"? > I use Thunderbird for email. > > David > > On 3/31/2020 10:21 AM, NE1EE - Rich wrote: >> David asked if I got a new thread...so I logged into the email package >> to see. NO...my "new" subject is under a thread of Yaesu FT-7100 >> Baofeng UV-5RA >> showing the hijacked message >> >> My message appears in the same 5RA thread. >> I was under the impression that, though the standard called out the use of >> In-Reply-To, it was rarely used. Not the case here, as the mail package >> correctly identified the thread. I suppose that has some usefulness, because >> someone could preserve the thread and change the subject, providing a clue >> to someone of the thread content. >> >> So ... >> You need to start a new message. >> Mike, WB4TTZ >> >> is entirely correct. I'm glad I ran the test and got the answer to a pending >> question in my mind, though I didn't know how to find it. Thanks Mike! >> ~R~ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> chirp_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >> This message was sent to Dave at [email protected] To >> unsubscribe, send an email to >> [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:25:05 -0400 > From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Replying to the list with a new > To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <cado5rbjfdy7thrdj+yukv-ze2xqtqhjxz2d8znu9mkr+_zs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > David, > > Administrators can set the lists up so that replies go to the author, or to > the list, or both, or "user decides" - moments ago I just set my googlegroups > list to "user decides" because if I don't set it that way the author's email > address is hidden - even from me - the list owner! > > Email lists are strange. Gmail doesn't send you back your own posts, which > was the original setting "way" back in 1980s when everyone was on a 300 baud > modem and phone lines. Conserve valuable bandwidth in those days. Now > sending you your own message takes a few milliseconds. > > I still use mutt and thunderbird, both have "bounce" functions because > sometimes my list subscribers think they have to send their emails to me for > forwarding to the list. Bouncing an email makes it look like it was sent by > the original sender to the final addressee - which in my case is always the > email list, but it can be abused to fool people, Person A sends me and email, > I bounce it to Person B and Person B thinks it was sent directly from Person > A. You can see it came through me if you look at the headers. > > I did have my email list set up that way in 1994 when I started that list as > a "one way" email list. Finally when google announced it was doing free > lists, I jumped at the chance. I also printed newsletters using a Commodore > 64 and GeoPublish - wow that's going back some. > > 73 > DR > N1EA > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:16 PM David <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ok another question, >> >> If I am responding to a post do I use "reply" or do I use "reply list"? >> I use Thunderbird for email. >> >> David >> >> On 3/31/2020 10:21 AM, NE1EE - Rich wrote: >>> David asked if I got a new thread...so I logged into the email >>> package >> to see. NO...my "new" subject is under a thread of >>> Yaesu FT-7100 >>> Baofeng UV-5RA >>> showing the hijacked message >>> >>> My message appears in the same 5RA thread. >>> I was under the impression that, though the standard called out the >>> use >> of In-Reply-To, it was rarely used. Not the case here, as the mail >> package correctly identified the thread. I suppose that has some >> usefulness, because someone could preserve the thread and change the >> subject, providing a clue to someone of the thread content. >>> So ... >>> You need to start a new message. >>> Mike, WB4TTZ >>> >>> is entirely correct. I'm glad I ran the test and got the answer to a >> pending question in my mind, though I didn't know how to find it. >> Thanks Mike! >>> ~R~ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> chirp_users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >>> This message was sent to Dave at [email protected] To >>> unsubscribe, send an email to >> [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> chirp_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users >> This message was sent to D.J.J. Ring, Jr. at [email protected] To >> unsubscribe, send an email to >> [email protected] >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200331/bae9c9ea/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:17:47 -0400 > From: NE1EE - Rich <[email protected]> > Subject: [chirp_users] email / forum etiquette > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > > <dm5pr0701mb38138c9c831c5b464f5bf75cf5...@dm5pr0701mb3813.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Well, I often see breaches of etiquette. The most serious of these is > hijacked threads. I find it nearly impossible sometimes to find what I am > looking for, because a thread with subject A will really be about subject B. > > So maybe we could have some sort of monthly reminder email, with explanations? > > > > ~R~ > 73 de Rich NE1EE > On the banks of the Piscataqua > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:25:11 -0500 > From: Richard Shaw <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] email / forum etiquette > To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <CAN3TeO0PvgqaMjJMhyX7y3XzmeLde5aD=7ZA6Es=gu3un_q...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:50 AM NE1EE - Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So maybe we could have some sort of monthly reminder email, with >> explanations? >> > A gentile but direct reminder is more effective I think, but it wouldn't hurt > to reference the full list once a breach is noted (for everyone). > > This list seems pretty complete: > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette > > Thanks, > Richard > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_users/attachments/20200401/33a7d2fb/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 10:44:29 -0400 > From: NE1EE - Rich <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [chirp_users] email / forum etiquette > To: Discussion of CHIRP <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <dm5pr0701mb3813eb70eb65b674221bec02f5...@dm5pr0701mb3813.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Gosh! Thanks for being kind about that! I think that I am too outspoken, and > I actually meant to delete the email. I was momentarily stunned when I saw a > post with exactly the same subject! > > Yes...I like what you have recommended. I used to have a link to something > similar, but then the web page went away. > > Saay...what's up here? I feel cheated <grin> Instructions For Specific > Clients No Eudora! > > Again, thanks for the suggestion. Much appreciated, and I have bookmarked it. > > ~Rich~ > > On 2020-04-01 09:25:-0500, you wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:50 AM NE1EE - Rich >> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >> >> So maybe we could have some sort of monthly reminder email, with >> explanations? >> >> A gentile but direct reminder is more effective I think, but it wouldn't >> hurt to reference the full list once a breach is noted (for everyone). >> >> This list seems pretty complete: >> >> <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette>https://wiki.open >> stack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette >> >> Thanks, >> Richard > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > To unsubscribe, send an email to > [email protected] > > End of chirp_users Digest, Vol 136, Issue 1 > ******************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > chirp_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users > This message was sent to Dave at [email protected] > To unsubscribe, send an email to > [email protected] _______________________________________________ chirp_users mailing list [email protected] http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users This message was sent to [email protected] at [email protected] To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected]
