On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Erik Kay <[email protected]> wrote:

> If we do this, I'd suggest that we leave them in on Chromium builds,
> but not Chrome builds rather than Release vs. Debug.  I think asking a
> user to switch to Debug is a lot worse since it'll also slow them down
> a lot.
>
> As for why people are doing this, it's likely because of the large
> number of crashes related to third party DLL injection that turning
> off the sandbox fixes. Given this, I'd say that we're not in a
> position to remove these flags since they're currently the only
> recommended workaround.


Right, I realize there are still compatibility problems, which is why
I purposely left --no-sandbox out of the list.  If people are using
-in-process-plugins or --single-process instead of --no-sandbox, that's
worse off..

>
>
> Erik
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Elliot Glaysher (Chromium)
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > +1. We absolutely should do this.
> >
> > -- Elliot
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:16 PM, John Abd-El-Malek <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> I was looking at the second top crasher in 2.0.166.1, and it turned out
> that
> >> these users are running with --in-process-plugins.  This turns off the
> >> sandbox and runs plugins in the renderer process.
> >> So far we've exposed all the internal command line switches to all
> users,
> >> but I'm wondering if that has outlived its usefulness. We don't test
> either
> >> mode on chromebot, while in-process-plugins doesn't even have any tests.
> I
> >> don't think spending much development time on these modes is worth the
> >> opportunity cost.
> >> The flip side is in the past they have been useful to have around, i.e.
> when
> >> someone complains about a bug, we sometimes ask them to try these modes.
> >> So I propose that we disable these flags in release builds, and if we
> want
> >> to test on users, we can point them towards debug builds off the build
> >> server. Obviously this is more work for them, but I think this avoids
> >> distracting us with looking at modes that are only used by a minority of
> >> users, and which we know are already broken. The bigger issue is why
> these
> >> users used those modes. I think in the past we might have suggested it
> to
> >> people if they had performance problems etc, but hopefully these are
> taken
> >> care of by now, and if not, better to know it anyways by having these
> users
> >> use the standard multi-process mode.
> >> Any strong opposition to this?
> >> >
> >>
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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