OK. So, what I'm hearing is that every test should have a bug assigned to
it, no matter the priority. In that case, there's a couple other options.

*Option 3*
Get rid of DEFER and don't add priorities to the test list. Instead require
that every test have an associated bug (multiple tests can share a bug) and
rely on the bug priority/owner to figure out when the test needs fixing and
who is responsible for fixing it.
Pros:
-Works with our current bug triage process (kind of)
-Makes for one easy place that people need to look for their todo list (the
google code issue tracker)
Cons:
-Overhead of filing and closing bugs when the common case is just a
rebaseline anyways
-Hard to triage layout tests without understanding what's wrong with them

*Option 4*
Same as option 3, except we have a script that monitors the test list and
automatically files a bug whenever a new test appears. The subject of the
test is just the path listed in the test list, so the test can be found by
searching the issue tracker. Similarly, when a test is removed from the test
list, the bug is automatically closed.

This has the same pros and cons as option 3 except that it totally removes
the overhead associated with having a bug for each test path. Also, this
would require someone to write the script to do this.

Ojan

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM, David Levin <[email protected]> wrote:
> I like this proposal.  I would also like a bugs for P3 which could explain
> why it is a P3.  If is it an unimplemented feature, then all tests for
that
> unimplemented feature could have the same bug.
> (Since I do merges and took a while to layout test file bugs from that) I
> like option 2.  BUT I'm concerned that adding someone's email address to
> test_fixable will not get any attention.  Right now, when you file a bug,
> people get email and the bugs seem to be followed up.
>
> BUGS/PRIORITY TRIAGING
> Option 1
>
> Addition Pro
>
> Email sent about new bug alerts people to the new issue -- I suppose one
> could email people separately when adding their email address to
> test_fixable (but this step could easily be missed).
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Marc-Andre Decoste <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I personally prefer having a bug assigned for the layout tests that we
>> want to be fixed soon... It makes for a more consistent way of following
up
>> on our progress... Even if the end result is just a re-baseline, we also
>> gain the link to the bug from the committed change list (and vice versa).
>> And if we want some sort of dashboard for this, we could add a page on
the
>> chromium-status appEngine that would read from the latest version of the
>> test list file, and maybe some details (e.g., owner) from the issue
>> tracker... Maybe... ;-)
>>
>> BYE
>> MAD
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ojan Vafai <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm going about adding support to the webkit test list for BUGxxxxx
>>> metadata and replacing DEFER with P0/P1/P2/P3. I've come to the
conclusion
>>> that we need to better understand our desired workflow for dealing with
>>> failing layout tests.
>>> TEST OWNERSHIP:
>>> Firstly, can we move away from using the spreadsheet to take ownership
of
>>> layout tests and just put our names directly in the test list? This
seems
>>> way more intuitive to me and avoids needing to look at multiple
locations
>>> for the state of the layout tests. I like having a read-only dashboard
that
>>> present this information in a useful way like the spreadsheet currently
>>> does, but there should only be one place we modify.
>>> BUGS/PRIORITY TRIAGING
>>> Option 1
>>> Every P0/P1/P2 test is required to have a bug id associated with it. New
>>> failures get the UNTRIAGED property (does not require a bug id
perhaps?).
>>> The people who triage bugs also triage the UNTRIAGED layout tests and
assign
>>> them a priority (and file a bug?). The bugs are then fixed via our
normal
>>> bug triage process. People own fixing a given layout test by becoming
the
>>> owner of the bug.
>>> Pros:
>>> -Works with our current bug triage process (kind of)
>>> -Makes for one easy place that people need to look for their todo list
>>> (the google code issue tracker)
>>> Cons:
>>> -Overhead of filing and closing bugs when the common case is just a
>>> rebaseline anyways
>>> -Hard to triage layout tests without understanding what's wrong with
them
>>> Option 2
>>> The same as above, except that bug ids are not required. Bug ids are
just
>>> for cases where someone has looked into a test and needs to provide
>>> information about why/how it's failing, but can't fix it immediately.
People
>>> become owners for a given layout test by putting their name as one of
the
>>> metadata bits for that test. Like Option 1, there needs to be a triage
>>> process to assign priorities.
>>> Pros:
>>> -Minimizes overhead of managing layout tests
>>> Cons:
>>> -Does not work with our current bug process
>>> -People need to look in two places to see what issues they need to fix
>>> -Hard to triage layout tests without understanding what's wrong with
them
>>> -Does not send people an email when they get assigned to a test (can be
>>> fixed by a simple script though)
>>> I lean towards option 2. There is so much churn with layout tests that
>>> adding overhead for each failure actually adds a good deal of
unnecessary
>>> work. In terms of bug triage, I think it needs to happens slightly
>>> differently than the current bug triage process anyways since it first
>>> requires an engineer (the webkit sheriff?) to find out why each test is
>>> failing.
>>> PRIORITIES
>>> P0 - Something is catostrophically wrong and should be fixed now.
>>> P1 - Regresssions and tests that have known or likely impact on real
>>> sites. Blocks next milestone release.
>>> P2 - Tests that we should be passing or for smallish features that we
>>> really should have implemented by now (e.g. input type=search)
>>> P3 - Tests for large features that we have yet to turn on (e.g. workers)
>>> Finaly, it's not clear to me that we need an explicit UNTRIAGED
property.
>>> If a test lacks a priority, then it's clearly untriaged.
>>> Ojan
>>>
>>
>>
>> >>
>
>

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