On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Jeremy Orlow <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marshall Greenblatt <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Peter Kasting <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Marshall Greenblatt <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I imagine this could require complex controls like tree views, icon
>>>> lists, date pickers, etc.  Will we see these controls as native extensions
>>>> to Chromium and WebKit, or is a JavaScript toolkit layer more likely?
>>>> Personally, I would love to see native support for these types of common 
>>>> yet
>>>> complex controls :-).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see why you'd expect there to be more controls than there are
>>> now.  The stated purpose is to get people on the web.  You don't need a date
>>> picker to get on the web.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I wouldn't choose the the word "expect" -- "hope" would be more
>> accurate :-)
>>
>> To answer your question, it's because these types of controls are time
>> consuming to develop and easy to get wrong from a usage and accessibility
>> standpoint. Sure, lots of AJAX frameworks exist, but they can't be optimized
>> for the underlying operating system or even necessarily match expected OS
>> behaviors. A browser-based toolkit that uses native implementations where
>> possible could provide the user experience and feature richness that I think
>> many people look for when planning or selecting applications.  This can be
>> especially true for a branded product where a consistent user experience is
>> one of the most important selling features (iPhone anyone?).
>>
>
> I don't think anyone's arguing that the new controls in HTML 5 are a good
> thing.
>

Er..."aren't" a good thing.

The only confusion is why they'd be special on Chrome OS.  Anything that's
> not provided directly by the OS (most if not all of the new ones, IIRC) will
> need to be done in WebKit itself.  As such, I believe Chrome OS will get
> these all "for free" once they're implemented in WebKit.
>
> And there are people working on it as we speak.  :-)
>

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