Finally got a chance to grab more stats.    my refclock line now looks like
this:

refclock SHM 0 refid GPS offset 0.060 delay 0.22 minsamples 64


I'm attaching the latest stats.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Bill Unruh <un...@physics.ubc.ca> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Aug 2016, Chris Greenman wrote:
>
>
>> No. We're just fine tuning the refclock line in chrony.conf.  I don't
>> really
>> experience huge jumps.  It might fall behind during a reboot because the
>> pi doesn't
>> have an RTC but rather it saves time on shutdown and restores on boot.
>>
>
> Ah sorry. they yes, during that time period gps settled down to being out
> about 10ms
> which is well within your requirements. Unrotunately, nmea is not the most
> stable of references. Thus if for some reason your gps puck becomes busy
> for
> some reason, (moving the computer, something happens with the gps
> constellation,...) that offset could change, but certainly not by a second.
> The handling of leap seconds by your puck could be an issue. Not sure how
> it
> handles that. But at worst it would mean that some midnight (UTC) at the
> end
> of Dec or Jun, the clock would suddenly be out by a second, and would
> slowly
> (well not that slowly with chrony) drift its way back into sync.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Really my only goal is to have somewhat accurate (less than a second)
>> time whether I
>> have internet or not.   We've already achieved this, now it's just a
>> matter of
>> making sure GPS doesn't clobber ntp and vice versa.
>>
>
> Not sure what you mean by "ntp".
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2016 7:24 PM, "Bill Unruh" <un...@physics.ubc.ca> wrote:
>>       Is this supposed to be at a time when your system suddenly looses
>> track
>>       of the
>>       time and jumps by hours or days? I see nothing in the gps signal
>> that
>>       indicates anything like that.
>>
>>       If it is supposed to be at the begining of this sample, please give
>> a
>>       sample
>>       which spans across, not begins at, one of those weirdnesses.
>>
>>       Note also that probably a copy of the measurements and the refclock
>> logs
>>       ove
>>       onw of those times might be more illuminating. Statistics is rather
>>       processed
>>       already.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>       On Sun, 14 Aug 2016, Chris Greenman wrote:
>>
>>             Ok  I grabbed a sample of the clock statistics.
>>
>>
>>             On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Bill Unruh
>>             <un...@physics.ubc.ca> wrote:
>>                   On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Chris Greenman wrote:
>>
>>                         it's a usb puck.  so no.  Actually I haven't
>>             actually looked but
>>                         typical USB is +5v data+ data- and gnd.  As
>>                         far as I know the only place the pps signal is
>>             available is inside the
>>                         puck between the GPS module and the usb
>>                         interface.
>>
>>
>>                   Well, usb serial immitatiors can also immitate the
>>             control lines from a serial
>>                   line. Thus one of the usb packets can be a simlation
>>             of the PPS signalalong
>>                   the appropriate serial line.  But those are likely to
>>             have far worse behaviour
>>                   than the actual lines.
>>                   It might however be better than the data phrases
>>             usually coming along the
>>                   serial line.
>>
>>
>>
>>                          like I said I COULD crack it open and run a new
>>             cable that included
>>                         the pps line.
>>
>>                         On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Bill Unruh
>>             <un...@physics.ubc.ca>
>>                         wrote:
>>
>>
>>                               William G. Unruh __| Canadian Institute
>>             for|____ Tel:
>>                         +1(604)822-3273
>>                               Physics&Astronomy _|___ Advanced Research
>>             _|____ Fax:
>>                         +1(604)822-5324
>>                               UBC, Vancouver,BC _|_ Program in Cosmology
>>             |____
>>                         un...@physics.ubc.ca
>>                               Canada V6T 1Z1 ____|____ and Gravity
>>             ______|_
>>                         www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/
>>
>>                               On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Chris Greenman wrote:
>>
>>                                     I CAN hook it up for PPS but it will
>>             require cracking open
>>                         the puck and it's not that
>>                                     crucial for my use
>>                                     anyway.
>>
>>
>>                               Isn't there an output line from the puck
>>             which carries the PPS
>>                         signal?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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