I can't speak to the future of ChucK itself, but recently I have
been giving a lot of thought to MY future with Chuck. First off,
I love ChucK and all the cool stuff it let's me create. I find
it much more intuitive than any other audio programming
language/environment I have used and I can usually create
something along the lines of what I set out to create with it.
My problem with it is that I really want to be able to create
stand alone apps and plugins with it, which I have not found any
way of doing. I would like for my software to be usable by the
average musician, not just by programmer-musicians who can read
ChucK code (though we are a cool bunch). I know ChucK Racks were
just released (for Macs,which I don't use) but as I understand,
this just let's you run ChucK scripts as a plugin, and does not
provide a way to wrap up the code in any UI to distribute to
musicians who are used to sliders, knobs, presets etc.
So I guess I have a few questions for everyone/anyone here: is
there a way to use ChucK in a mobile or desktop app? Is there a
way to connect ChucK to a GUI that is simple enough that
non-programmers could use it? If not, is there another language
/ libraries for another language like python, for example, that
has some of the great, intuitive design as ChucK? Is ChucK more
of an educational tool at this point and less of a tool for
developers?
Thanks for taking the time to read. Happy audio/music making!
Stuart
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1. Re: static strings and the future (JP Yepez)
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 15:53:30 +1300
Subject: Re: [chuck-users] static strings and the future
Hello all,
I can't say much about the development part itself, but in
my experience I've noticed that ChucK is still being used
widely at an academic level. I understand it's being used in
a few universities that include creative technology programs
and computer orchestra courses in their curriculums,
including CalArts, Stanford, and VUW (New Zealand). Like
Mario mentioned, it is a core part of a few Kadenze courses;
I've been involved as a producer/teaching assistant in a
couple of them and it seems like it's a popular language
among students who are just learning how to code, and
musicians who would like to develop more advanced projects.
Also, ChucK Racks popped up a couple of months ago, which
was pretty exciting. So yeah, I think there's quite a bit
going on, but it certainly would be nice to have a more
active community (I'm hoping to contribute, and hopefully
I'll get to it before too long).
About the *static strings* issue, I think they're kind of in
a shady spot. Like Gonzalo mentioned, you can't have static
non-primitives in your code, but there is a workaround to
this by declaring objects as a reference and then
initializing them outside of the class. However, if you try
to do this with strings, it will tell you that they're a
primitive type and it throws an error. The best hack I've
found for this is through arrays (even if the size of the
array is 1 in many cases). Here's an example:
publicclassContainer{
staticstringstaticString[];
publicstaticvoidinit(){
newstring[1]@=>staticString;
"Hello World"@=>staticString[0];
}
publicstaticvoidprint(){
<<<staticString[0]>>>;
}
}
Container.init();
Container.print();
You don't really need an init() function, and you can
initialize the array on the actual script, but I usually end
up with much larger classes, which is why I like to keep
things clean.
Hope this helps!
Best,
JP
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On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:19 AM, mario buoninfante
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Hi,
I'd like to ask the same question about the development
status.
the only thing I can say is that also if the development
seems to be a bit stuck, on the other side I noticed
that they're pushing on the educational side (see
Kadenze courses), and if you look at the github
repository, there's been some update in the last 2 years.
but as you guys said, it's important to know what's the
plan ;)
it's a couple of years I'm really diving into ChucK and
I strongly believe that is a good programming language
which opens up a lot of possibilities that other
languages don't.
but at the same time I feel like it's been a bit
abandoned (maybe that's a huge word, let's say put aside
;) ) and of course using a "tool" which has an
"uncertain future" it's not the best thing.
I wish I was able to offer my contribution to the
development, but unfortunately I'm not really into
C/C++, I'm more a "scripting language guy" :)
btw, it would be nice to hear what developers and/or
other users have to say about it.
cheers,
Mario
On 12/01/18 22:14, Gonzalo wrote:
Yes, I'm wondering the same thing. There's a
Facebook group
(https://www.facebook.com/groups/1593843507578422/
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/1593843507578422/>)
but it doesn't look super active either.
As far as static strings: I'm pretty sure you just
can't have static non-primitives. What are you
trying to achieve?
Cheers,
Gonzalo
On 13.01.18 00:20, Atte wrote:
Hi
I've been away for a long time and surprised
that activity seems to have slowed down a lot,
both on the development of new releases chuck
and the life of this list. Am I looking at the
wrong places? What's the status of chuck
development now and in the future?
I really like chuck (mostly the timing and
sporking including Machine.add()), should I look
other places for a language that will privide a
more secure future? I'm on linux and looked at
Csound, Super Collider and PD, each has it's
challenges in how I work (realtime generative
and algorithmic MIDI), python seems to have
realtime problems (garbage collection at random
points). Any idea what former chuck users have
switched to now?
Back to chuck! A problem that I never been able
to solve, static strings:
public class A {
"b" @=> static string B;
public static void C(){
<<<B>>>;
}
}
That throws an error, how would I go about what
I'm trying to do?
Cheers
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