Barbara points are well taken. To put all of this into context of WSC's relationship with the Jews, I recommend "Churchill and the Jews: A Lifelong Friendship" by Sir Martin Gilbert.
Sincerely, Jonah Triebwasser Adjunct Lecturer Marist College Poughkeepsie, New York [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 702-6242 Quoting Barbara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > FIRSTLY - this was written in 1920!! Churchill was advocating a > homeland for the Jews in Palestine. He talked about different > factions. Do not read it In the light of what has been called > "generational chauvenism." > > Here is the entire text: Judge for yourself. Remember 1920 - before > all the horrors of WWII, but after the horrors of WWI. > > ZIONISM VERSUS BOLSHEVISM > > Winston S. Churchill > > Illustrated Sunday Herald, 8 February, 1920 > > The Collected Essay of Sir Winston Churchill:, vol IV. > > Some people like Jews and some do not; but no thoughtful man can doubt > the fact that they are beyond all question the most formidable and the > most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world. > > Disraeli, the Jew Prime Minister of England, and Leader of the > Conservative Party, who was always true to his race and proud of his > origin, said on a well-known occasion: 'The Lord deals with the > nations as the nations deal with the Jews.' Certainly when we look at > the miserable state of Russia, where of all countries in the world the > Jews > were the most cruelly treated, and contrast it with the fortunes of > our own country, which seems to have been so providentially preserved > amid the awful perils of these times, we must admit that nothing that > has since happened in the history of the world has falsified the truth > of > Disraeli's confident assertion. > > The conflict between good and evil which proceeds unceasingly in the > breast of man nowhere reaches such an intensity as in the Jewish race. > The dual nature of mankind is nowhere more strongly or more terribly > exemplified. We owe to the Jews in the Christian revelation a system > of ethics which, even if it were entirely separated from the > supernatural, would be incomparably the most precious possession of > mankind, worth in fact the fruits of all other wisdom and learning put > together. On that system and by that faith there has been built out of > the wreck of the Roman Empire the whole of our existing civilization. > > And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present > time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals > and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, > if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has > rendered > possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the > gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; > and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the > supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical. > > There can be no greater mistake than to attribute to each individual a > recognizable share in the qualities which make up the national > character. There are all sorts of men - good, bad and, for the most > part, indifferent - in every country, and every race. Nothing is more > wrong than to deny to an individual, on account of race or origin, his > right to be judged on his personal merits and conduct. In a people of > peculiar genius like the Jews, contrasts > are more vivid, the extremes are more widely separated, the resulting > consequences are more decisive. > > At the present fateful period there are three main lines of political > conception among the Jews, two of which are helpful and hopeful in a > very high degree to humanity, and the third absolutely destructive. > > First there are the Jews who, dwelling in every country throughout the > world, identify themselves with that country, enter into its national > life, and, while adhering faithfully to their own religion, regard > themselves as citizens in the fullest sense of the State which has > received them. Such a Jew living in England would say, 'I am an > Englishman practising the Jewish faith.' This is a worthy conception, > and useful in the highest degree. We in Great Britain well know that > during the great struggle the influence of what may be called the > 'National Jews' in many lands was cast preponderatingly on the side of > the Allies; and in our own Army Jewish soldiers have played a most > distinguished part, some rising to the command of armies, others > winning the Victoria Cross for valour. > > The National Russian Jews, in spite of the disabilities under which > they have suffered, have managed to play an honourable and useful part > in the national life even of Russia. As bankers and industrialists > they have strenuously promoted the development of Russia's economic > resources, and they were foremost in the creation of those remarkable > organizations, the Russian Co-operative Societies. In politics their > support has been given, for the most part, to liberal and progressive > movements, and they have been among the staunchest upholders of > friendship with France and Great Britain. > > In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the > schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister > confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of > countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if > not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and > divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This > movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus- > Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela > Kun (Hungry), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United > States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization > and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested > development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been > steadily growing. > It played, as a modern writer, Mrs Webster, has so ably shown, a > definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. > It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the > Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary > personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and > America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and > have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous > empire. > > There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of > Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution > by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is > certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the > notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are > Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from > the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by > his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like > Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, > or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of > Krassin or Radek - all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the > predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if > not indeed the > principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the > Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been > taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil > prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during > which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been > presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness > has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German > people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every > whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part > played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population > is astonishing. > > Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been > excited in the breasts of the Russian people. Wherever General > Denikin's authority could reach, protection was always accorded to the > Jewish > population, and strenuous efforts were made by his officers to prevent > reprisals and to punish those guilty of them. So much was this the > case that the Petlurist [followers of Simon Petlyura (1879-1926), > Ukranian politician who led the Ukranian army against the Bolsheviks. > He was defeated and fled to Poland, thence to Paris where he was > assassinated] propaganda against General Denikin denounced him as the > Protector of the Jews. The Misses Healy, nieces of Mr Tim Healy, in > relating their personal experiences in Kieff, have declared that to > their knowledge on more than one occasion officers who committed > offences against Jews were reduced to the ranks and sent out of the > city to the front. But the hordes of brigands by whom the whole vast > expanse > of the Russian Empire is becoming infested do not hesitate to gratify > their lust for blood and for revenge at the expense of the innocent > Jewish population whenever an opportunity occurs. The brigand Makhno, > the hordes of Petlyura and of Gregorieff, who signalized their success > by the most brutal massacres, everywhere found among the half- > stupefied, half-infuriated population an eager response to anti- > Semitism in its worst and foulest forms. > > The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of > worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility > has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with > the villainies > which are now being perpetrated. This is an injustice on millions of > helpless people, most of whom are themselves sufferers from the > revolutionary regime. It becomes, therefore, specially important to > foster and develop any strongly-marked Jewish movement which leads > directly away from these fatal associations. And it is here that > Zionism > has such a deep significance for the whole world at the present time. > > Zionism offers the third sphere to the political conceptions of the > Jewish race. In violent contrast to international communism, it > presents to the Jew a national idea of a commanding character. It has > fallen to the British Government, as the result of the conquest of > Palestine, to have the opportunity and the responsibility of securing > for the Jewish race all over the world a home and a centre of national > life. The statesmanship and historic sense of Mr Balfour were prompt > to seize this > opportunity. Declarations have been made which have irrevocably > decided the policy of Great Britain. The fiery energies of Dr Weizmann, > [Chaim Weizmann (1874-1952) was born in Grodno, Russia. An active > Zionist, he became President of the World Zionist Organization in > 1920. > In 1949 he became the first President of Israel] the leader, for > practical purposes, of the Zionist project, backed by many of the most > prominent British Jews, and supported by the full authority of Lord > Allenby, are all directed to achieving the success of this inspiring > movement. > > Of course, Palestine is far too small to accommodate more than a > fraction of the Jewish race, nor do the majority of national Jews wish > to go there. But if, as may well happen, there should be created in > our own lifetime by the banks of the Jordan a Jewish State under the > protection of the British Crown, which might comprise three or four > million of Jews, an event would have occurred in the history of the > world which would, from every point of view, be beneficial, and would > be especially in harmony with the truest interests of the British > Empire. > > Zionism has already become a factor in the political convulsions of > Russia, as a powerful competing influence in Bolshevik circles with > the international communistic system. Nothing could be more > significant than the fury with which Trotsky has attacked the Zionists > generally, and Dr Weizmann in particular. The cruel penetration of his > mind leaves him in no doubt that his schemes of a world-wide > communistic State under Jewish domination are directly thwarted and > hindered by this new ideal, which directs the energies and the hopes > of Jews in every land towards a simpler, a truer, and a far more > attainable goal. The struggle which is now beginning between the > Zionist and Bolshevik Jews is little less than a struggle for the soul > of the Jewish people. > > It is particularly important in these circumstances that the national > Jews in every country who are loyal to the land of their adoption > should come forward on every occasion, as many of them in England have > already done, and take a prominent part in every measure for combating > the Bolshevik conspiracy In this way they will be able to vindicate > the honour of the Jewish name and make it clear to all the world that > the Bolshevik movement is not a Jewish movement, but is repudiated > vehemently by the > great mass of the Jewish race. > > But a negative resistance to Bolshevism in any field is not enough. > Positive and practicable alternatives are needed in the moral as well > as in the social sphere; and in building up with the utmost possible > rapidity a Jewish national centre in Palestine which may become not > only > a refuge to the oppressed from the unhappy lands of Central Europe, > but which will also be a symbol of Jewish unity and the temple of > Jewish glory, a task is presented on which many blessings rest. > > > > On Nov 30, 7:19 pm, "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you Mrs. Langworth, > > > > Now interpretation? > > > > Thanks ........ > > > > David > > > > I am going along the lines of discussion of the early "Illuminati" and > > criticism/warning of them?? > > > > David > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf Of Barbara > > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:08 PM > > To: ChurchillChat > > Subject: [ChurchillChat] Recent quotation inquiry > > > > Churchill indeed did write this, the entire paragraph being: > > > > In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the > > schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister > > confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of > > countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if > > not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and > > divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This > > movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus- > > Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela > > Kun (Hungry), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United > > States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization > > and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested > > development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been > > steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs Webster, has so > > ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the > > French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive > > movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of > > extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of > > Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of > > their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that > > enormous empire. > > > > It first appeared in the "Illustrated Sunday Herald," 8 February, 1920 > > and was titled "Zionism Versus Bolshevism" > > > > It is in "The Collected Essay of Sir Winston Churchill":, vol IV. In > > my Library of Imperial History edition it starts on page 26 and this > > paragraph is on pg 27. > > > > Barbara Langworth > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. 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