I was one those who posted earlier and expressed my disappointment with 
"Into the Storm". Although I too count myself as a Churchill "snob" I do 
acknowledge that he did NOT win WWII all by himself. Even on the just the 
British side of the story he had some help! e.g. Brooke, Monty, Eden (?), 
etc. The movie over played Churchill compared to the first much more finely 
done effort, "The Gathering Storm" where those around Churchill, Desmond 
Morton, Baldwin and other characters were developed in a realistic and 
historically accurate way.

As suggested in another post, this "movie" would have been much better 
portrayed as a mini-series ala John Adams, it did not even have to be that 
long, maybe 4 or 5 hours devided into the Battle of Britain to Pearl Harbor, 
Pearl Harbor up to D-Day then D-Day to Winston's lost election at the end of 
the War. So that is 5 or 6 hours where Churchill would have been the central 
character but his role could have been told in context relative to the 
events and to the other major and some minor figures in the War.

In my opinion what made the first movie so appealing was the telling of the 
story of the Wigrams. Few non snobs I am sure ever heard of them, but I know 
my wife (a non snob) felt their story and Winston's part in it, gave the 
movie and the Churchill's a real human dimension. That sort of story telling 
was left out of this second film because there was no TIME to tell those 
other stories when you have to sprint through so many years of the War and 
Winston had to be in virtually every scene.

I do not know how the viewership of HBO movies are measured but I cannot 
believe that more than a handful of us Churchill snobs will ever bother to 
see this one versus the first one must have had a decent viewership of 
normal (non snobs) people.

Again, the opportunity to tell the Churchill story within the context of 
WWII to a wider audience has been, I believe, wasted.

Glenn Flickinger


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From: "Editor/Finest Hour" <[email protected]>
To: "ChurchillChat" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: Into the Storm broadcast



I think we're all a bunch of Churchillosnobs. We are standing too
close to our boy, and know too much about him, to appreciate that
there's only so much a producer can do in 90 minutes. And, given
today's level of education—when more English-speaking people know
Madonna than their Congressman or MP, 90 minutes is a generous
allotment. The best editor I ever worked for always said, "A bore is
somebody who tells everything."

As some have pointed out, "Into the Storm" is about CHURCHILL—not
Stalin or FDR or Poland or Jock Colville or Yalta—and it is more
effective than anything since Robert Hardy's multi-part "Wilderness
Years" in honestly portraying Churchill's true persona. It resists
many opportunities for cheap political hackery, as over the bombing of
Germany, "poison gas," and all the stuff so beloved of media
ignoramuses. We should be glad Ridley Scott is not one of them, that
Hugh Whitemore stuck so well to facts, and that Brendan Gleeson made
such a good WSC.

My review of "Into the Storm" is posted at
http://richardlangworth.com/2009/06/into-the-storm-the-end-of-glory
The same review will run more or less as in the summer number of
FINEST HOUR. I will gladly publish any interesting ripostes and have
already gathered in Tony's questions above, on whether certain scenes
actually happened.

PLEASE EMAIL OFFLINE.


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