Now I'm really confused. Whose project is this? I had originally thought it
was Prof. Muller's project, in which case he would be free to change publishers
in case they weren't producing. I was then given to understand that it was a
St. Augustine Press project and they had contracted with Prof. Muller to do the
annotation. In that case, while they would control the publication date, Prof.
Muller should be adequately compensated under his contract.
So how does the Churchill Centre all of a sudden come into this? Who, if
anyone, is running the show and are we ever going to see a published result?
Or should we just kiss it off and go on to something else.
Jonathan Hayes
From: STAN ORCHARD <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] The River War
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{margin-bottom:0in;}-->My interpretation of Lee's posting is that there is some
financial contribution threshold from The Churchill Centre that needs to be
reached before the book can be published. And if the Centre had more cash flow
the book would have been printed and shipped long ago. If this is the case
then why not just confess the shortfall and provide everyone with a realistic
timeline to publication based upon facts and circumstances that everyone can
understand. Is this the end? The beginning of the end? Or, at least the end
of the beginning?
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From: "Lee Pollock" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: 22 October, 2016 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] The River War
Dear Jonathan: I wish I could tell you and the other members of this chat
group that Prof. Muller has been “well compensated” for his 15+ years of work
on this immense undertaking, but that unfortunately is not the case. While The
Churchill Centre has been continuously supportive of his efforts on this and
other Churchill works, we are a small non-profit and have limited funds
available for grants for research and writing, no matter how worthy, as this
edition of The River War surely is. Specialized works of this kind do not
garner big advances from publishers and St. Augustine Press itself is a small
independent enterprise in a world where the publishing and bookselling trades
are under stress. But I would like to offer the following suggestions: 1.
This chat group has a fairly large number of members, many of whom are not
members of The Churchill Centre. I encourage those of you who are not to join,
which you can do online or by using the attached form. If you so indicate, one
hundred percent of your first year’s dues will be used to support the research
and writing of Prof. Muller and other scholars. 2. For those who are
already members (and for others): we welcome contributions of any amount that
you might consider and you can designate that your funds be used to support
publication of this new edition of The River War and/or for general research by
Prof. Muller and others. I hope you will all give favorable consideration to
these suggestions. Lee PollockExecutive DirectorThe Churchill CentreChicago,
IL [email protected] From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 11:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] The (mythical) River War I, also, received a
notice that the October pub date was off, but they didn't give a new one. I
hope Prof. Muller has been well compensated for his work 'cause there ain't
going to be any royalties. Jonathan Hayes From: Dave Turrell
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: [ChurchillChat] The (mythical) River War In doing some desultory web
browsing today, I note that the latest date that St Augustine Press has been
giving for publication of Jim Muller’s ‘River War’ (September 2016) has been
and gone, like so many of their other proposed publication dates over the last
15 years or more. Checking with Amazon, it seems that they were, at least, not
taken in by the latest, and still show a publication date of November 2013.
While I think that most of us have come to accept the prospect of publication
of this work as being something of a bizarre ongoing joke, I wonder if St.
Augustine will get round to not referring to their offering as having a
foreword by “Churchill’s only surviving child, Lady Soames”. That strikes me
as being a little tacky, at best. Cheers, Dave--
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