Jeez Bob, I really miss Quig.
There used to be dialogue here. Now this place is just a fire hydrant that the errant canine hikes his leg upon and sprays a message. If possible, could you please email Jim Rarey and tell him that Bill Clinton is no longer in office and the Democrats control neither the senate nor the house. There is no hidden gold in Webfairy's old posts, but she sure as hell ate up a lot of bandwidth. No more dialogue, just grafitti. mark- --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mark urban wrote: > > Webfairy, > > > > You mean all of your posts with wiolawa72 and the smith brothers > > coughdrop scalar weapons platform and the solarized reptilians are > > gone!!! > > > > How dare they! > > > > I once let Kris know that when you and T Casey Brennan did your web > > enabled rondezvous that I felt like a passerby watching a shopping > > bag lady and a derelict making out in an alley. > > > > So how's Sean McBride treating you? > > > > Mcurb... > Mark, > > Ibid Ferry is just trying to excuse her Orwellian > censorship of her cia-drugs list archive. The > extent of her censorship is, as she says, to > winnow down the authors, eliminating those > like Hopsicker and all of us, until censorship > leaves nothing but a Big Lie monolog by her, > and perhaps Wiolawa. > > Her deployment of the terms Orwellian and > censorship to characterize my hardware > breakdowns and downtime thus stands revealed > as Rovian guilt-projection role-reversal, commonly > known as "hypocrisy", her being the one who is > censoring down to a Big Lie monolog. In contrast > I haven't deleted any of her drivel or Wiolawa, > because the search engines bypass them. I can > look at my logs and see that people aren't > harried by the dogs of infowar at all. > > And as I mentioned, Ibid Ferry ferried us more > Big Lie by ferrying Holmgren over with his > cherry-picking of 911 Pentagon witness Mike > Walter, when the local video shows Walter > and Joel Sucherman standing together and > Sucherman fills in the last few feet of the flight > into the wall. He and Walter are standing on > the ground which rises slightly, Walter is > pointing and gesturing, and you can see that > the rise of land is so low that if the plane had > flown over the Pentagon, Walter would have > seen it do so. And of course, Sucherman was > not the only one to see it hit the wall. > > I have my hardware working but I don't know > when I'll have time to write perl scripts to parse > the new yahoo code. I been downloading but > not able to translate messages into web pages > for a few months. I've lost two hard drives and > a tooth split in half today. > > Ibid Ferry has it backwards, as always. Her anti- > people anti-witness servile reptilian fascist disinfo > 911 smokescreen is still on my hard drive, but > people are searching for something else, so > they aren't finding a full ferry load of ibid Big > Lie. > > -Bob > > > > > > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Perhaps Bob is embarrassed to have contribuited the information > > about > > > Harbo to the No Planes Movement. > > > It certainly is a clue that they had planned the Small Plane > > Hangout > > > from the beginning. > > > > > > Will the CIA-Drugs archives at sitbot.net recover from the attempt > > to > > > Orwellize by removing my posts? > > > The roughly 3000 posts I made are now archived at > > > http://thewebfairy.com/911/cia-drugs > > > which isn't as pretty as sitbot.net, but more useful, lately. > > > > > > RoadsEnd wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > > >> *From: *Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > >> *Date: *July 3, 2005 7:51:52 PM PDT > > > >> *To: *undisclosed-recipients:; > > > >> *Subject: **[cia-drugs] How Holmgren distorts evidence* > > > >> *Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:cia- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Lt Col Art Holbo's nazi hoes are taking Joel Sucherman > > > >> out of the video where he stands with Mike Walter and > > > >> completes Walter's testimony. I see Mike Walter point > > > >> to the Rt 27 overpass a few feet away, give his account, > > > >> then Joel Sucherman takes over to describe the crash. > > > >> Funny, Gerard Holmgren and Brian Gumbel are nowhere > > > >> to be seen. Similar to the DVD where the fire hose or > > > >> foam spray obscures the wing hole in the Pentagon > > > >> west wall, while Holbo's devotee narrates that the > > > >> hole(the upper fuselage hole) is too small for AA77, > > > >> the Boeing 757 which was seen to crash there. Are > > > >> you tired of fuzzy bin Laden videos and bloodless > > > >> beheading videos and planeless small plane videos? > > > >> Well Holmgren has a Sucherman-Walter video for > > > >> you with no Joel Sucherman in it, but a lot of some > > > >> fuzzy, bloodless, plane-less spin doctor in it. > > > >> > > > >> Nothing is left to the prurient imagination unless you > > > >> take Joel Sucherman out of the video. They walk the > > > >> very ground, on camera, about which Gerard Holmgren > > > >> meanly puffs and poses in his pedantic effort to fulfil > > > >> propaganda officer Holbo's deepest yearnings and > > > >> wildest fantasies. Or, to use his metaphor, Holmgren > > > >> "cherrypicks" by choosing to hear from Walter alone, > > > >> not Sucherman and Walter in tandem, when they are > > > >> featured in the same video, walking the ground > > > >> together about which Holmgren and Ibid Ferry > > > >> feign to inform us. > > > >> > > > >> That's the local DC channel 9 Eyewitness news video > > > >> from minutes after the crash, where Lt Col Art Holbo, > > > >> USAF propaganda officer, preps for his nazi ho Pentagon > > > >> small-plane Big Lie security cam video which could not > > > >> be released until FBI mopped up all local area security > > > >> cam videos, USAF's small plane vid showing us as much > > > >> small plane as a Nick Berg beheading shows blood, then > > > >> these nazi hoes suck Holbo's toes by "cherry-picking" > > > >> which videos, which witnesses from the same frame, > > > >> as we have to put up with Ibid Ferry's life of federal > > > >> corruption coverup. > > > >> > > > >> Do not forsake me, oh my darling, > > > >> ever blinkered nightful nazi hoes, > > > >> for whom your tumbrels really roll. > > > >> > > > >> Blinkered night his window broke. > > > >> More HMX from sidewalk nazi hoes, > > > >> shanghai sunshine willing no one. > > > >> > > > >> ...Bring It On. > > > >> > > > >> -Bob > > > >> > > > >> Rosalee Grable wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/154107#154726 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> How Hoffman distorts evidence > > > >>> by *Gerard Holmgren* > > > >>> .......... > > > >>> Mike Walter's account: > > > >>> > > > >>> I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings. It went right > > there and > > > >>> slammed right into the Pentagon. > > > >>> while leaving out the earlier part of his account: > > > >>> I looked out my window and I saw this plane, this jet, an > > American > > > >>> Airlines jet, coming. And I thought, 'This doesn't add up, > > it's really > > > >>> low.' > > > >>> In the context of his full account, it is clear that Walter > > was using > > > >>> "cruise missile with wings" to describe the way the plane was > > being > > > >>> flown, not the kind of plane he saw. ]]......... > > > >>> > > > >>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/witness2.html > > <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/witness2.html> > > > >>> <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/witness2.html> > > > >>> <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/witness2.html> > > > >>> > > > >>> Below is a summary of what my research on Walter found, but I > > recommend > > > >>> reading the link above to get the full picture > > > >>> > > > >>> Hoffman says "In the context of his full account..." > > > >>> > > > >>> And exactly *which* full account would that be, Jim ? > > > >>> > > > >>> Perhaps the one where he told Bryant Gumbel that he saw a full > > on > > > >>> impact, > > > >>> > > > >>> ""I was on an elevated area of Highway 27 and I had a very > > good view. I > > > >>> was stuck in traffic. We weren't moving and--and I could see > > over in > > > >>> the > > > >>> distance the American Airlines jet as it kind of banked > > around, pivoted > > > >>> and then took a steep dive right into the Pentagon." > > > >>> > > > >>> and then when Gumbel responded with > > > >>> > > > >>> GUMBEL: Did you see it hit the Pentagon? Was the plane coming > > in > > > >>> horizontally or did it, in fact, go on its wing as--as it > > impacted the > > > >>> building? > > > >>> > > > >>> To which Walter responded with > > > >>> > > > >>> Mr. WALTER: You know, the--the--the--there were trees there > > that > > > >>> kind of > > > >>> obstructed it, so I kind of--I saw it go in. I'm not sure if > > it turned > > > >>> at an angle. I've heard some people say that's what it did. > > All I know > > > >>> is it--it created a huge explosion and massive fireball and-- > > and you > > > >>> knew instantaneously that--that everybody on that plane was > > dead. It > > > >>> was > > > >>> completely eviscerated. " > > > >>> > > > >>> So Walter's claim to have seen the plane hit the building > > lasted all of > > > >>> 5 secs before he backed off the claim. > > > >>> > > > >>> And just to make sure, later in the interview > > > >>> > > > >>> GUMBEL: Tell me, if you could, about the manner in which the-- > > the plane > > > >>> struck the building.... > > > >>> > > > >>> Mr. WALTER: Well, as I said, you know, there were trees > > obstructing my > > > >>> view, so I saw it as it went--and then the--then the trees, > > and then I > > > >>> saw the--the fireball and the smoke. Some people have said > > that the > > > >>> plane actually sent on its side and in that way. But I can't > > tell you, > > > >>> Bryant. I just know that what I saw was this massive fireball, > > a huge > > > >>> explosion and--and a--the thick column of smoke and then an > > absolute > > > >>> bedlam on those roads as people were trying to get away." > > > >>> > > > >>> Now you see it (hit), now you don't. > > > >>> > > > >>> Or did Jim mean the full account he gave in another interview, > > only 1 > > > >>> hour later, where he said > > > >>> > > > >>> "It kind of disappeared over this embankment here for a moment > > and then > > > >>> a huge explosion, flames flying into the air, and--and just > > chaos on > > > >>> the > > > >>> road." > > > >>> > > > >>> So he was in an elevated area with a very good view and saw a > > full on > > > >>> impact, which he actually didn't see at all because there were > > trees in > > > >>> the way, but in spite of his elevation and very good view it > > > >>> "disappeared" over an embankment - which is actually what he > > had been > > > >>> saying the day before anyway, before he changed his mind the > > next > > > >>> day in > > > >>> the Gumbel interview,and then immediately backed off, and 1 > > hour later > > > >>> went back to his story of the previous day, where he > > explicitly stated > > > >>> that he did not see it hit the building. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ > > > >> > > > >> Please let us stay on topic and be civil. > > > >> > > > >> OM > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > > -------- > > > >> YAHOO! 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