As soon as you explain what happened to the engines and wings, Im on
board.-- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "muckblit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Four inches of stone, two layers of brick, for the front wall. Like
paper.
>
> Around the windows there was a light metal frame designed to hold
the
> windows if fragments from a truck bomb flew against the wall. Again,
> nothing, no solid structure.
>
> The second floor slab represented the first solid structure. An off
> duty pilot living in an apartment nearby saw the cockpit of the
silver
> AA Boeing 757 peel upward as half of the fuselage went above and
half
> below the floor slab. Then the upward folded part got pulled into
the
> hole as the rest of the fuselage went into mostly open area,
> encountering a few concrete columns once inside the building.
>
> Some of the holes seen in photos were made by heavy equipment from
the
> back side, for rescue workers. You can see a line and instructions
> spray-painted on the wall around the hole, marking where to run a
> bulldozer through the wall.
>
> Smokescreeners never get specific about what structure was so strong
> that the plane went through at the Pentagon. I have documented the
> above construction details here in the past. Four inch stone slab,
two
> layers of brick, that's nothing. Metal frame around the edge of
> windows, that's nothing. Slide and carom between scattered concrete
> pillaras once inside, that's nothing. The second floor slab was the
> only solid structure and it just sliced the fuselage, but the mass
of
> the plane kept on going. Nothing amazing happened at the Pentagon,
> unlike New York, where a number of amazing things did happen(steel
> melting, buildings all falling straight down with no time for
> resistance to collapse--as if demolished).
>
> -Bob
>
> --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "mark urban" <mcurb@> wrote:
> >
> > Kris,
> >
> > What I was saying is that Loftus appears to be saying that the
plane
> > in its regular configuration behaved like a shaped charge when it
hit
> > the pentagon. He is using the concept of a plasma stream to
explain
> > how the relatively soft nosed commercial jet could punch through
so
> > many interior walls.
> >
> > I do not think it works as an explanation.
> >
> >
> > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd <roadsend@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, I do not think there was some special charge on plane or
> > otherwise.
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > K
> > >
> > > On Sep 17, 2007, at 9:54 PM, mark urban wrote:
> > >
> > > > The concept of a shaped charge is what is being proffered. An
> > > > inverted cone of metal jacketed high explosive that hits armor
> > > > creates a molten stream of metal that burns through the armor
> > plate.
> > > > If Loftus wants to say a commercial jet hitting a building
behaves
> > > > like an RPG7 hitting a humvee, then I would think that we are
now
> > > > seeing the next phase in the 911 cover up. I lump this right
in
> > there
> > > > with Mike Ruppert telling us to forget about 911. geez!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd <roadsend@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Basically, my understanding of what Loftus is talking about
is
> > > > what
> > > >> happens when a large object moving at a high rate of speed
hits
> > an
> > > >> immovable object creating high temperatures and thusly
> > > >> disintegration. What form this disintegration took and if
this
> > > >> activity created any special effect I do not know.
> > > >>
> > > >> Peace,
> > > >> K
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sep 17, 2007, at 2:09 PM, mark urban wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> It is amazing how the laws of physics just went all to hell
on
> > > > 911.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis"
> > > >>> <thehatefulnerd@> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> john loftus is on wtprn right now claiming that "the
pentagon
> > > >>> plane" turned into plasmic matter. as i understand it,
plasmic
> > > >>> matter is the fourth phase of matter. solid, liquid, gas,
> > plasma.
> > > >>> like in the sun. the sun is "plasmic matter." he's saying
that
> > > > the
> > > >>> plane "vaporized into plasma" and that's why the damage to
the
> > > >>> pentagon went so deep, because of the "focused energy."
> > > >>>> the plane "vaporized into plasma" because that one wall
had
> > been
> > > >>> armored.
> > > >>>> he's saying that this is not inconsistent with finding
human
> > > >>> remains.
> > > >>>> of course, none of this addresses the question as to
whether
> > the
> > > >>> plane was hijacked, radio controlled, switched out with a
drill,
> > > >>> etc. could a missile be "vaporized into plasma?"
according to
> > > >>> loftus, the military HAS weapons that do precisely this.
he was
> > > >>> stating this as proof that the "plasmic effect" could be
> > possible.
> > > >>> heh.
> > > >>>> to me, its all just begging the question. for instance,
why
> > did
> > > >>> the plane fly over the pentagon, do a 180, come all the way
back
> > > >>> around, and hit THAT side? and what about the alleged
> > explosions
> > > >>> before the pentagon strike?
> > > >>>> now theyre talking about security cams.
> > > >>>> www.wtprn.com
> > > >>>> 9:15 pm central time
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please let us stay on topic and be civil.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> OM
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/
> > > >
> > > > Please let us stay on topic and be civil.
> > > >
> > > > OM
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
