Good morning Andrew. I have further information for you concerning the 
disposition of the attached PasswordPolicyAndValidation.pdf document.

The tables and information in PasswordPolicyAndValidation.pdf will not be 
incorporated into [MS-SAMR] (notes below) due to constraints imposed by the 
document templates, and maintainability.

Of course, a separate scenario document would be needed to explain the 
interrelationship of the protocols and their processing of 'on the wire data' 
as observed in a Windows environment.

I am currently awaiting definition and elaboration on this, with respect to the 
plan for the upcoming system documents, and will keep you posted as information 
is forthcoming.

Notes:

[MS-SAMR] 3.1.5.14.2 userAccountControl Mapping Table
[MS-SAMR] 5.2 Index of Security Parameters

We have investigated whether additional clarifications are necessary in the two 
sections (Section 3.1.5.14.2 & Section 5.2) as suggested by the 
PasswordPolicyAndValidation.pdf. However, we think these additional 
modifications to the technical document are not necessary since:

1)      The information in table 2 of the PasswordPolicyAndValidation.pdf is 
partly provided by another table in section 2.2.1.2. Most of the information 
presented in table 2 is already present in various sections of MS-SAMR and 
other technical documents; quoting them again will lead to duplication of 
information and hence difficulty in maintenance of the document. Having the 
documentation for a protocol contained in one place (where the appropriate 
protocol is discussed) is most suitable.

2)      As for table 3 of PasswordPolicyAndValidation.pdf, the columns in the 
table present in section 5.2 already contain links to the sections whose titles 
are suggested to be added. Further, this table is in accordance with the 
template used to create our technical documentation and therefore it would not 
be appropriate to modify its format/structure.

Regards,
Bill Wesse
MCSE, MCTS / Senior Escalation Engineer, US-CSS DSC PROTOCOL TEAM
8055 Microsoft Way
Charlotte, NC 28273
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Bartlett [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 6:07 PM
To: Bill Wesse
Cc: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: Status: SRX080909600334: [MS-APDS] Backing store and policy 
application information

On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 09:17 -0800, Bill Wesse wrote:
> Change request for [MS-NRPC]:
> NETLOGON_VALIDATION_SAM_INFO4 Structure Member Derivations and
> References ([MS-NRPC] 2.2.1.4.13) Status is that the information in the 
> PasswordPolicyAndValidation.pdf document will not become part of the 
> [MS-NRPC] document. This is because of the unwieldy amount of inter-document 
> cross references in the tables.

Then will this be an additional document in the set?  This information needs to 
be referenced, preserved and maintained - otherwise the documents simply fail 
to live up to their purpose.

> Change request for [MS-SAMR]:
> Password Policy Checks ([MS-SAMR] 3.1.5.14.2) 3. Password Validation
> Attributes ([MS-SAMR] 5.2)
> - Documentation development has not yet responded; I have alerted them 
> concerning this.

OK.

Andrew Bartlett

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Andrew Bartlett
http://samba.org/~abartlet/
Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org
Samba Developer, Red Hat Inc.
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