Mungkin juga seehh...... saya juga pernah belajar kayak gitu..malah masih aktif ampe sekarang tuh... tapi sampai selama ini....saya nggak pernah mengalami seperti apa yg anda ceritakan itu... yg saya rasakan dominan adalah saya lebih sungguh menyadari kebesaranNYa, lebih menyadari saya bukan siapa2. lebih menyadari saya jauh lebih kecil dari debu yg nggak keliatan, lebih menyadari bahwa saya jauh dari sempurna, dan lebih menyadari bahwa saya nggak berhak bilang berdasarkan kitab anu ayat sekian, anda salah atau benar, nggak berhak bilang anda kafir atau bukan, nggak berhak menentukan anda akan masuk surga atau neraka, nggak berhak bilang bahwa agama yg saya anut adalah yg paling benar, dan lebih nggak berhak lagi menghukum/menghakimi orang cuma dengan tuduhan kafir atau menghujat Tuhan. Pokoknya saya lebih menyadari saya cuma MANUSIA BIASA, yg sangat biasa malah, penuh segala kekurangan...... Jadi kalo apa yg saya tulis menyinggung anda, maapin ane ye? Maklum saya cuma orang biasa aja ....he.he.he
with love, theo roberto http://kiosaffiliate.blogspot.com/ --- On Sat, 11/29/08, hendri simatupang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: hendri simatupang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CiKEAS> Kesaksian tentang Peng-HARAM-an Yoga di Malaysia To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 5:29 PM Ya begitulah bung Theo anda coba aja deh. aku pernah latihan gituan..gangguan dari alam lain malah tinggi tidur malah tangan keplak-keplok tanpa sadar..hik.hik Hal ini tergantung tingkat pencapaian anda juga. Ada lagi yang pakai aji-ajian/rapalan. . repot.. deh. coba aja baca buku referensi daud tony. Mas Pung guru besar MP aja udah ga mau ngajarin lagi. Pengobatan alternatif itu juga ...sama saja koq terapi diri sendiri dengan affirmative. Cukup anda hayalkan/kosentrasi saja simpuls syaraf anda bekerja disekujur tubuh anda yang sakit. Tetapi yang kita koreksi akan paham Haram -Halal itu. koq semua diatur UU Pesantren juga mengajarkan latihan Kebathinan sama saja koq halnya dgn Yoga tsb. salam hens ------------ -- --- On Sat, 11/29/08, theo roberto <theoroberto@ yahoo.com> wrote: > From: theo roberto <theoroberto@ yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: CiKEAS> Kesaksian tentang Peng-HARAM-an Yoga di Malaysia > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com > Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 12:34 AM > masa sich...??? > > > with love, > theo roberto > > > --- On Fri, 11/28/08, hendri simatupang > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: > > From: hendri simatupang <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> > Subject: Re: CiKEAS> Kesaksian tentang Peng-HARAM-an > Yoga di Malaysia > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 11:31 PM > > > > > > > Berbagi informasi saja. > Apapun namanya Yoga, Rieki, Prana, Kebathinan, Getaran pd > Merpati Putih. > akan membuat pikiran menjadi kosong. Kekosongan pikiran tsb > sering ditafsir sebagai wangsit bila mendapatkan sesuatu. > Kekosongan itu akan diisi oleh alam hayal lain dari dunia > paralel kita. Umumnya impuls syaraf IQ manusia tidak > berkembang, namun insting akan meningkat laksana binatang. > Pancaran Aura memang meningkat, tetapi semu. > Kalo cari pasangan lebih gampang, libido cukup tinggi, > pasangan anda akan cukup puas lelaki bisa ejakulasi beberapa > kali, dengan mengatur kundalini. > Tidaklah heran ajaran ini berkembang pesat. > Kalau tidak mau jadi hewan jauhkan saja ajaran tsb, karena > anda akan terganggu. Natural itu jauh lebih enak. Tidur > lebih nyenyak. > > salam > hens > ------------ --------- ---- > > --- On Fri, 11/28/08, leonardo rimba <leonardo_rimba@ > yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: leonardo rimba <leonardo_rimba@ yahoo.com> > > Subject: CiKEAS> Kesaksian tentang Peng-HARAM-an > Yoga di Malaysia > > To: spiritual-indonesia @yahoogroups. com > > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:35 AM > > Friends, berikut KESAKSIAN teman baik saya, seorang > wanita > > Malaysia di Kuala Lumpur, tentang peng-HARAM-an Yoga > oleh > > ulama Malaysia, enjoy ! > > > > + > > > > Dear Leo, > > > > Just a quick note. I haven't been dropping in on > Milis > > SI for quite a while, but since I miss reading your > quips > > and discourse, I did yesterday and got onto some > postings by > > some of SI veterans about the latest gaffe on Yoga > over > > here. > > > > This is just one of the many stupidities inflicted > upon us > > by half-baked religious bigots. > > > > As for me and the likes of me, we don't waste a > breath > > discussing it, we just roll our eyes to heaven as we > know > > that we live in different worlds and there is no point > > foaming at the mouth over it. > > > > But on the one hand, I actually do feel so pained by > it all > > and at an earlier point in my life I just might cry my > heart > > out in frustration. > > > > The Yoga ban is nothing but ignorance, also small > > mindedness, and jealousies that while all Muslim women > go > > about with their heads covered (never mind if the > covering > > is so bejewelled and the face so dolled up), there are > Malay > > women who don't (how dare they?) and in fact go > prancing > > about doing Yoga and stuff and enjoying it and earning > good > > money from teaching it (there are many exclusive Yoga > > centres operated by 'modern' Malay women here > who > > have nothing to do with Hindu philosophy). > > > > In the end it is the same small mindedness of puny > human > > beings no doubt they seem to come from one particular > > religion (I suspect the latest carnage in Mumbai has > to do > > with them too, as in so many other places in the > world). > > > > But Leo, what I am dismayed about, which prompts me to > > write this time, is the spirit and tone of what I read > in > > SI. I hope I am wrong, but I sense again this unspoken > > disdain about things Malaysian... . > > > > Does spirituality have national borders and > boundaries? > > > > Can we not be supportive of each other if we know any > > better? > > > > Can we go a bit beyond merely passing remarks and > instead > > be educational and uplifting? God knows we need it at > this > > time in the world's cycle. > > > > Daisy > > > > + > > > > KOMENTAR SAYA: > > > > Thanks Daisy, > > > > It's nice to hear from you. > > > > Actually Indonesians began to be "outraged" > en > > masse exactly one day after the announcement by Malay > > ulemmas or whomever it was who pronounced the haram > stuff. > > > > In my opinion, liberal and open-minded Indonesians > have > > this kind of "perception" about Malaysia > where the > > ulemmas are so unreasonable. > > > > So, when things turned rather badly as when the > Indonesian > > Parliament passed the "Pornography Law", > then one > > of the reasons cited for condemning the law was: > > > > "Even Malaysia does NOT have a law like the > > Pornography Law". > > > > Now, that kind of reasoning only justifiable when we > accept > > the underlying assumption MANY Indonesians hold about > > Malaysia as the place where "funny" things > happen. > > > > > > It follows that If Malaysia does NOT have a > Pornography > > Law, then Indonesia is NOT justified to have one. > Reason: It > > is NOT funny enough, or something like that. > > > > Sure, spirituality has NO border, it spans from the > North > > Pole to the South, and has NO color too... > > > > No color > > No time span > > Nothing in between > > Only You up there and Me down here who are > > ALL OF US > > > > There is nothing haram or halal whatsoever, only > CHOICES. > > > > We choose whatever we wish to do with our own lives. > > > > The stupid fatwa is only a memoriam, something to be > > recorded that ONCE we had such, just that. > > > > All the Best, > > Leo > > Milis Spiritual Indonesia > > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/spiritual- > indonesia>. > > > > > > > > Get your new Email address! > > Grab the Email name you've always wanted > before > > someone else does! > > http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ aa/
