http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2010/1005/op2.htm

 1 - 7 July 2010
Issue No. 1005
Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875

Democracy, religion and the state

Once again, the blurred grounds between spiritual and worldly authority in 
Egypt has come into focus, writes Abdel-Moneim Said 

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Can a country fully democratise without resolving the question of the 
relationship between religion and the state? 

This is not an issue of whether people should or should not be religious. 
Personal faith and the right to practise it are beyond question. Moreover, in a 
country like Egypt, where religion is as old and deep as history, religion is 
the backbone of popular culture. However, religion and the state is another 
matter entirely. That is the nexus that establishes the relationship between 
the public and the private sphere, between secular and religious authorities 
and, hence, between civil legislation and ecclesiastic decree. One can only be 
constantly amazed at how often democracy advocates and aspirants find a way to 
skirt around this crucial issue, even at those moments when democratic and 
theocratic principles clash most glaringly. 

One such instance occurred last week, during an interview on ON TV's 
"Manchette" programme with Suad Saleh, professor of comparative jurisprudence 
and member of the International Federation of Muslim Ulemas. Aired on Sunday 20 
June, the interview stirred intense debate on the question of the relationship 
between religion and the state. Interestingly, this controversial interview 
occurred the day after Saleh joined the liberal Wafd Party because of the 
civilised way it held its internal elections and because, according to her, it 
was the only party that could serve as a platform -- through its religious and 
women's affairs committee -- for her to reach out to and speak for the 
"downtrodden" Egyptian people. More remarkably yet, the interview occurred only 
five days after a speech she delivered during a seminar organised by the 
International League of Al-Azhar Graduates, in which she said that a woman had 
the right to become president now that the age of the caliphate was over. 

But apparently her newfound liberalism only stretches so far. When the 
interviewer, Gaber Al-Qarmouti, asked her whether the same right should be 
extended to Christians she responded with a categorical "No". "God will never 
give unbelievers a way [to gain mastery] over believers," she said, quoting the 
Quran (Surat Al-Nesaa: 101). She continued: "Muslims must have authority over 
unbelievers, not the reverse. This is why God permitted Muslim men to marry 
non-Muslim women and not non-Muslim men to marry Muslim women. Just as the man 
has authority over the woman in marriage, so too should the superior religion 
prevail over the inferior one." 

Naturally, the next question was whether this was not inconsistent with the 
principles of the secularist Wafd Party, which subscribes to the concept of 
equality between all citizens, regardless of whether they are Muslim or 
Christian, or male or female. The Al-Azhar scholar responded that although the 
party was secularist in its orientation, it was not a heretic party. It did not 
deny the existence of God and the fact that there is only one God and that 
Mohamed is His prophet. The Wafd Party newspaper also featured serious 
religious articles, she said. She went on to liken her position to that of Pope 
Shenouda, Patriarch of the See of St Mark, who rejected the Supreme 
Administrative Court's ruling obliging the church to issue marriage permits to 
divorcees. Just as the pope defended his refusal on the basis of biblical 
strictures, she adhered to the strictures of her religion, such as the one set 
down in the Quranic verse cited above.

Saleh's remarks triggered an outpouring of diverse responses on the programme 
and elsewhere in the media. In general, reactions against her position fell 
into three main trends. One body of opinion rested its case on the first 
article of the constitution, which states: "The Arab Republic of Egypt is a 
democratic state founded upon the concept of citizenship. The Egyptian people 
are part of the Arab Nation and work towards the realisation of its 
comprehensive unity." According to the constitutionally enshrined principle of 
equal citizenship -- advocates of this trend argued -- any citizen, whether 
Christian or Muslim, or man or woman, has the right to become president. Other 
commentators went further to suggest that the main reason why this type of 
controversy keeps surfacing from time to time resides in Article 2 of the 
constitution that states, "Islam is the religion of the state and Arabic is its 
official language. Islamic jurisprudence is the principle source of 
legislation." The solution they propose is to abolish this article. This, they 
argue, would have positive repercussions on the public sphere, at least insofar 
as it would curtail the further re-emergence of crises centring on the 
relationship between religion and the state. The separation of religion from 
civil authorities would mean, above all, that the presidency would be open to 
the person most qualified for that position, regardless of that individual's 
religion or gender. The third trend was to hone in on Saleh's classification of 
Christians as heretics. Proponents of this trend hold that no one who believes 
in one God should be branded a heretic and that the Quranic verse she cited 
should be interpreted in this light. Accordingly, all Egyptian citizens would 
have the right to stand for any public office in application of the 
constitutionally enshrined principle of equal citizenship. 

Of particular interest, here, are the divergent reactions within the Wafd Party 
itself towards the ideas aired by Saleh. One camp lashed out at her views and 
insisted that she draw a line between her religious outlook and the political 
outlook of the party she had just joined. Since it was established, the Wafd 
Party had always subscribed to the principle of equal citizenship between 
Muslims and Christians and men and women, especially on the question of 
eligibility for high office. The other camp attempted to play down the 
implications of Saleh's remarks. Members of this camp held that the substance 
of her interview was not political but rather religious and connected with her 
field of expertise. Therefore, there was no conflict with the party's 
principles and general outlook, which prevail over the individual opinions of 
its members. At the same time, they added, such diversity of opinion gives the 
party a special gleam of vitality.

But reactions to the Saleh interview did not stop there. Another set of 
comments focussed not so much on the substance of her remarks as on their 
impact on the political climate that has just entered an electoral season that 
began with the mid-term Shura Council elections at the beginning of this month. 
On the one hand, there are those who reproached the new Wafd Party member for 
her imprudence. She should have avoided falling into the trap of speaking about 
such sensitive subjects and in a manner that contradicted the core principles 
of the party she had just joined. Some went further to accuse her of staging a 
publicity stunt. Others pointed their fingers at the habit some media outlets 
have of sensationalising such sensitive issues and, wittingly or not, feeding 
the extremist ideas of certain groups that don a liberal façade. Meanwhile, 
others have spoken of taking legal action against Saleh on the charge of 
stirring sectarian strife that would threaten national unity. 

Many representatives of religious institutions and political forces also 
entered the fray. A Muslim Brotherhood member who is currently serving in the 
People's Assembly stepped forward to state that there should be nothing to 
prevent a Christian from becoming president since that office is concerned with 
secular affairs. He grounded his opinion in the following Quranic verse (Surat 
Younis: 99) : "If thy Lord had so willed, all on earth would have believed, 
together; So would you then constrain people until they become believers?" 

Saleh had this to say to her critics. She was in no position to judge whether 
or not a person was a believer. At the same time, she would never have joined a 
party that opposed her religious beliefs. So as far as she is concerned, the 
matter is closed and she continues to subscribe to the opinions she aired. 

But the matter is not closed as far as Egypt is concerned. The controversy and 
the central ambiguity in our political system remains standing. More 
importantly, as far as we are concerned, this matter puts democratic forces 
before a crucial test. Their challenge is to apply considerable thought and 
sensitivity not into the question of equal citizenship, which is a prerequisite 
for any democracy, but to the handling of religious texts in a manner that, on 
the one hand, reaffirms their spirit of magnanimity and tolerance, and on the 
other affirms the demands and circumstances of the times.

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