Den 26.12.2022 23:01, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
https://superuser.com/questions/879216/how-to-determine-whether-blu-ray-disc-is-htl-or-lth

lists two methods one with cdrecord + internet, another one using imgburn

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Here's the best way I've found:

1.

    Determine the manufacturer code and media type of the media. On
    Linux, I used |cdrecord|
    <http://cdrtools.sourceforge.net/private/cdrecord.html> |dev=XXX
    -atip | grep -i 'manufacturer\|media type'|, where |XXX| is the
    code for the Blu-ray burner as listed by |cdrecord -scanbus|.


This give me an opportunity to discuss certain reported issues with access privilegies from K3b/Cdrecord.

I have also reported this as a possible K3b build bug to openSUSE bugzilla a couple of weeks ago
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1206384

Suggestions are welcome how to troubleshoot and get rid of them, as they can be part of or main cause to my burning/disc problem. !?


   cdrecord -scanbus
   Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.02a09 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
   Copyright (C) 1995-2016 Joerg Schilling
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able
   to open all needed devices.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able
   to open all needed devices.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to
   send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable
   problems.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to
   do remote SCSI.
   cdrecord: No access. Cannot open '/dev/sg0'. Cannot open or use SCSI
   driver.
   cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure
   you are root.
   cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.

   cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 -atip | grep -i 'manufacturer\|media type'
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able
   to open all needed devices.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able
   to open all needed devices.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to
   send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable
   problems.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to
   do remote SCSI.
   scsidev: '/dev/sr0'
   devname: '/dev/sr0'
   scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
   Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
   Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
   Manufacturer: 'VERBAT'
   Media type: 'IM1'


Just now K3b/Cdrecord seems to not even write to more BD-RE DL discs :(

The above messages are also part of the current debugging output from K3b included here (sorry for the length):

   Devices
   -----------------------
   HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.02 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM,
   DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE, DVD+R,
   DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer
   Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted
   Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer,
   CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, BD-ROM, BD-R Sequential (SRM), BD-R Random
   (RRM), BD-RE] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P,
   RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump, Random Recording,
   Sequential Recording, Sequential Recording + POW] [%7]

   System
   -----------------------
   K3b Version: 21.12.3
   KDE Version: 5.90.0
   Qt Version:  5.15.2
   Kernel: 5.14.21-150400.24.38-default

   Used versions
   -----------------------
   cdrecord: 3.2a09

   cdrecord
   -----------------------
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able
   to open all needed devices.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able
   to open all needed devices.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to
   send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable
   problems.
   cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to
   do remote SCSI.
   scsidev: '/dev/sr0'
   devname: '/dev/sr0'
   scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
   Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
   Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
   SCSI buffer size: 64512
   Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.02a09 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
   Copyright (C) 1995-2016 Joerg Schilling
   TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
   Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
   Driveropts: 'burnfree'
   atapi: 1
   Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
   Version        : 5
   Response Format: 2
   Capabilities   :
   Vendor_info    : 'HL-DT-ST'
   Identifikation : 'BD-RE  BH10LS30 '
   Revision       : '1.02'
   Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM.
   Current: BD-RE
   Profile: BD-ROM
   Profile: BD-R sequential recording
   Profile: BD-R random recording
   Profile: BD-RE (current)
   Profile: DVD-RAM
   Profile: DVD-R sequential recording
   Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording
   Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording
   Profile: DVD-RW sequential recording
   Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite
   Profile: DVD+RW
   Profile: DVD+R
   Profile: DVD+R/DL
   Profile: DVD-ROM
   Profile: CD-R
   Profile: CD-RW
   Profile: CD-ROM
   Profile: Removable Disk (current)
   Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 BD-RE driver (mmc_bdre).
   Driver flags   : NO-CD BD MMC-3 BURNFREE
   Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP
   Drive buf size : 2031616 = 1984 KB
   Drive pbuf size: 3850240 = 3760 KB
   Drive DMA Speed: 17771 kB/s 100x CD 12x DVD 3x BD
   FIFO size      : 4194304 = 4096 KB
   Track 01: data  39383 MB
   Total size:     39383 MB = 20164288 sectors
   Current Secsize: 0
        Capacity Blklen/Sparesz.  Format-type  Type
   24438784            36864         0x00  Unformated or Blank Media
   23652352            24576         0x00  Reserved (0)
   23259136             2048         0x01  Reserved (0)
   23652352            24576         0x30  Reserved (0)
   23259136            36864         0x30  Reserved (0)
   24307712             4096         0x30  Reserved (0)
   24438784             2048         0x31  Reserved (0)
   Format was needed.
   Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 2 in real FORMAT mode for
   single session.
   Last chance to quit, starting real write in 3 seconds.
       2 seconds.
       1 seconds.
       0 seconds. Operation starts.
   Formatting media
   operation 0% done
   === last message repeated 29 times. ===
   Formatting time: 61.464s (00:01:01.464)
   Condition not caught: capacity_not_set.

   cdrecord command:
   -----------------------
   /usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/sr0 speed=2 -sao
   driveropts=burnfree -data -tsize=20164288s -



1.

    Look up the manufacturer and media type codes at
    http://www.blu-raydisc.info/licensee-list/discmanuid-licenseelist.php .
    The table on that site identifies "recording type" (i.e. HTL or
    LTH) and also write speed from these codes.

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site worked when I clicked on link.

Apparently LTH should be marked due to their bad compatibility with earlier drives, but .... reality is less stellar :(

A quick look in the tables it seemed for me that all 50GB BD-R/RE DL discs use "HTL" recording type.



and in imgburn

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With image burning software. ImgBurn <http://www.imgburn.com/> for instance.

In Imgburn main menu just click on anything writing related. For example, "Write image file to disc"

Now a new window pops up

Please check that you have the correct burner selected in the left hand side, if you have more than one disc burner.

Scroll down on the right pane, and you find the info under "Recorded Mark Polarity"

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HTL is apparently more durable....

Terje posted link to Canadian site and I did little search on my own

https://www.pcworld.com/article/423607/hard-core-data-preservation-the-best-media-and-methods-for-archiving-your-data.html
(from 2016)

to be honest I newer heard about HTL vs LTH when it comes to BDs....

I found some ASUS  drive in my city, so *may be* I'll have some means to test real disks in new year.



Many articles recommend to keep three types of media for archiving stored on at least two locations to spread the risk.
For camcorded video this envolves for me

1. keep the source media (tape cassettes)
2. a digitized version on portable expansion USB3 discs
3. and on optical Blu-ray data discs and playable BD-video discs.


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