Den 06.01.2023 12:58, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
пт, 6 янв. 2023 г., 14:55 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>: Den 29.12.2022 03:20, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:чт, 29 дек. 2022 г., 01:53 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>: Den 27.12.2022 02:17, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:вт, 27 дек. 2022 г., 03:57 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>: Den 26.12.2022 23:01, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:https://superuser.com/questions/879216/how-to-determine-whether-blu-ray-disc-is-htl-or-lth lists two methods one with cdrecord + internet, another one using imgburn === Here's the best way I've found: 1. Determine the manufacturer code and media type of the media. On Linux, I used |cdrecord| <http://cdrtools.sourceforge.net/private/cdrecord.html> |dev=XXX -atip | grep -i 'manufacturer\|media type'|, where |XXX| is the code for the Blu-ray burner as listed by |cdrecord -scanbus|.This give me an opportunity to discuss certain reported issues with access privilegies from K3b/Cdrecord. I have also reported this as a possible K3b build bug to openSUSE bugzilla a couple of weeks ago https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1206384 Suggestions are welcome how to troubleshoot and get rid of them, as they can be part of or main cause to my burning/disc problem. !? cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.02a09 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2016 Joerg Schilling cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able to open all needed devices. cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able to open all needed devices. cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable problems. cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to do remote SCSI. cdrecord: No access. Cannot open '/dev/sg0'. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 -atip | grep -i 'manufacturer\|media type' cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able to open all needed devices. cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able to open all needed devices. cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable problems. cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to do remote SCSI. scsidev: '/dev/sr0' devname: '/dev/sr0' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Manufacturer: 'VERBAT' Media type: 'IM1' https://github.com/netblue30/firejail/issues/2989 I read somewhere in cdrtools documentation cdrecord may use linux capabilities ... this issues suggest using |sudo getcap /usr/bin/cdrecord| So, I guess there should be setcap too?I admit I have never heard about or used getcap and setcap before, but found them in the Leap package 'libcap-progs'. I ran setcap as you suggested in your additional post 'cdrecord as user'. The "Insufficient 'xxxx' privileges disappeared, but sorry not the failed burning. Five years ago I burned several labeled "LongLife" Verbatim BD-R DL/50 Gb discs with the same LG burner and previous K3b/Cdrecord. When these discs became EOL, I tried corresponding 'Mediarange' discs. These failed to burn and Cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 254). This error 254 is posted on some forums with different solutions. Some said burning could be broken by some unfrienly programs. Regarding Mediarange, Joerg Schilling suggested to upgrade the burner's firmware, but still no burning success with those Mediarange discs anymore. I think xorriso is only disk burning program left with maintainer ... try it, and also try contact suggested at its homepage === Contact for issues of this web page or the described program: Thomas Schmitt, [email protected] ====Yes, I have tested xorriso and contaced Thomas Schmitt, both with my old LG burner and a new ASUS burner. It turns out that the old burner has lost its capability to write newer BD-R DL discs. Yet it still manages BD-RE DL discs. The quite new ASUS burner manages my previous problematic MediaRange BD-R DL discs. It is claimed to have M-disc support ("1000-year storage solution"). According to wikipedia M-DISC (Millennial Disc) is a write-once optical disc technology introduced in 2009 by Millenniata, Inc. and available as DVD and Blu-ray discs. Regarding prices I have verified that Verbatim Lifetime Archival M-Disc are priced about 3x normal disc quality like Verbatim DataLifePlus BD-R DL, and > 3x prices of some lower cost discs like MediaRange and Primeon. I am not (yet) convinced M-discs are worth the high prices for normal or personal arhival. IMO I have not yet seen proved experience regarding longevity for normal quality BD-R/RE discs. Some say as low as 5-7 years, other 10-20 or even 20-50 years.well, hang around for 20-30 years more and we find out from your experience! :-)
Yeah, or even a Millennium as claimed for the M-discs technology 😁
Thanks a lot for all this quite costly experimentation!My current Verbatim BD-R/RE DL/50 Gb discs are labeled "Hard Coat" - and respectively "M+A+B+L" resistant (layer for archival life), and "SERL" for up to 1000 times rewriteable. But LG/K3b don't like them and fails with error code 254. What is rather confusing, I have happend to successful burn a couple of these BD-RE discs, while most have failed after several trial. well, may drive tries to defect manage them and got confused? (I myself write initially about background format here but then saw it named defect management) https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=246015 * Typical output in the burning window is: * SAO writing at 2x speed (default SAO and 3x selected) * Cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 254) * Sometimes TAO writing solves this issue (I have not tried that) * (Another error "Cannot fixate disk" has also appeared) I have currently had some more success to complete burn some unbranded BD-RE/DL discs from Slowmoose, with less failing. The remarkable is that the disc burn is so unstable and inconsistently, as it may fail on the first two attemps before it succeed on the third. Some burns may fail immediately, other not so fun after 1 or 1.5 hour(s), or ca. 1/3-1/2 of total burning time for 40 Gb) I maybe read somewhere that som other burning programs could "leave disc without "closing session" (or similar?), and Cdrecord next could run into issue to rewrite those discs afterwards. I know I have tried also 'dd' on some discs. Two of more or less related links https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Optical_disc_drive https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=58884Just now K3b/Cdrecord seems to not even write to more BD-RE DL discs :( The above messages are also part of the current debugging output from K3b included here (sorry for the length): Devices ----------------------- HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 1.02 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, BD-ROM, BD-R Sequential (SRM), BD-R Random (RRM), BD-RE] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump, Random Recording, Sequential Recording, Sequential Recording + POW] [%7] System ----------------------- K3b Version: 21.12.3 KDE Version: 5.90.0 Qt Version: 5.15.2 Kernel: 5.14.21-150400.24.38-default Used versions ----------------------- cdrecord: 3.2a09 cdrecord ----------------------- cdrecord: Insufficient 'file read' privileges. You will not be able to open all needed devices. cdrecord: Insufficient 'file write' privileges. You will not be able to open all needed devices. cdrecord: Insufficient 'device' privileges. You may not be able to send all needed SCSI commands, this my cause various unexplainable problems. cdrecord: Insufficient 'network' privileges. You will not be able to do remote SCSI. scsidev: '/dev/sr0' devname: '/dev/sr0' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 SCSI buffer size: 64512 Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.02a09 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2016 Joerg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'. Driveropts: 'burnfree' atapi: 1 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'HL-DT-ST' Identifikation : 'BD-RE BH10LS30 ' Revision : '1.02' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM. Current: BD-RE Profile: BD-ROM Profile: BD-R sequential recording Profile: BD-R random recording Profile: BD-RE (current) Profile: DVD-RAM Profile: DVD-R sequential recording Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording Profile: DVD-R/DL layer jump recording Profile: DVD-RW sequential recording Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite Profile: DVD+RW Profile: DVD+R Profile: DVD+R/DL Profile: DVD-ROM Profile: CD-R Profile: CD-RW Profile: CD-ROM Profile: Removable Disk (current) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 BD-RE driver (mmc_bdre). Driver flags : NO-CD BD MMC-3 BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP Drive buf size : 2031616 = 1984 KB Drive pbuf size: 3850240 = 3760 KB Drive DMA Speed: 17771 kB/s 100x CD 12x DVD 3x BD FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 39383 MB Total size: 39383 MB = 20164288 sectors Current Secsize: 0 Capacity Blklen/Sparesz. Format-type Type 24438784 36864 0x00 Unformated or Blank Media 23652352 24576 0x00 Reserved (0) 23259136 2048 0x01 Reserved (0) 23652352 24576 0x30 Reserved (0) 23259136 36864 0x30 Reserved (0) 24307712 4096 0x30 Reserved (0) 24438784 2048 0x31 Reserved (0) Format was needed. Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 2 in real FORMAT mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 3 seconds. 2 seconds. 1 seconds. 0 seconds. Operation starts. Formatting media operation 0% done === last message repeated 29 times. === Formatting time: 61.464s (00:01:01.464) Condition not caught: capacity_not_set. cdrecord command: ----------------------- /usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/sr0 speed=2 -sao driveropts=burnfree -data -tsize=20164288s -1. Look up the manufacturer and media type codes at http://www.blu-raydisc.info/licensee-list/discmanuid-licenseelist.php . The table on that site identifies "recording type" (i.e. HTL or LTH) and also write speed from these codes. === quote end==== site worked when I clicked on link. Apparently LTH should be marked due to their bad compatibility with earlier drives, but .... reality is less stellar :(A quick look in the tables it seemed for me that all 50GB BD-R/RE DL discs use "HTL" recording type.and in imgburn ==== With image burning software. ImgBurn <http://www.imgburn.com/> for instance. In Imgburn main menu just click on anything writing related. For example, "Write image file to disc" Now a new window pops up Please check that you have the correct burner selected in the left hand side, if you have more than one disc burner. Scroll down on the right pane, and you find the info under "Recorded Mark Polarity" ==== HTL is apparently more durable.... Terje posted link to Canadian site and I did little search on my own https://www.pcworld.com/article/423607/hard-core-data-preservation-the-best-media-and-methods-for-archiving-your-data.html (from 2016) to be honest I newer heard about HTL vs LTH when it comes to BDs.... I found some ASUS drive in my city, so *may be* I'll have some means to test real disks in new year.Many articles recommend to keep three types of media for archiving stored on at least two locations to spread the risk. For camcorded video this envolves for me 1. keep the source media (tape cassettes) 2. a digitized version on portable expansion USB3 discs 3. and on optical Blu-ray data discs and playable BD-video discs.
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