сб, 26 авг. 2023 г., 10:54 Igor BEGHETTO via Cin <[email protected] >:
> Sorry for the late about your work on the Manual. > I think that it would be better create this "Differences" section in a > another PDF, no inside the Cin-GG Manual. > > About Canvas for the Timeline, as reported in an other thread > (https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2023-August/006852.html), > for me is a mistake to compare Timeline with Canvas and I don't > understand why we should explain what is Timeline for. The Andrea_paz's > exemple is more correct for the Compositor area: that is the area where > all is "drawn", from a user point of view. > > For me Clip and Edit are the same, but Andrea_paz explained well to > understand better how to distinguish them in Cinelerra. > > I think Users would take many advantages if a few of shortcuts could be > changed to standard shortcuts. I know, or I belive, that is not possible > to create custom User shortcuts because Cinelerra-GG is not create with > this feature, unfortunately. Some time ago I had suggested if it was > possible to change some of them with the approval of the majority of > users. I guess that older users don't want that. > Main problem those keyboard commands spread all over codebase, so changing them can be a chore ... also, I need to think how it will look programmatically (not tried this more strategic part yet!) Thanks for possible mappings, I try to save them for (possible) later use. > > ################################################################# > Changing some shortcuts to a NLE's standard shortcuts. > For example: J - K - L (Play Normal reverse - Stop- Play Normal forward) > if pressed twice J (or L), its Play Fast or > Normal. > I - O (InPoint - OutPoint) > A - S (Jump backwards next cut - Jump forwards next cut) > > If an shortcut on After column has a '+' symbol (for example: + 'I'), > it means that it is added at the old shortcut/s on Before column > and also that that shortcut has been take from an old shortcut (of course), > which it has another key. > (Capital letters in the After column do not mean Shift key is pressed) > ----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ > Description | Shortcut > | Before | After > ----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ > -To clip | 'i' | Ctrl+I > -Scroll window timeline... left | LeftArrow, ',' | LeftArrow > -Scroll window timeline... right | RightArrow, '. | RightArrow > -Label | 'l' | ''' (single quote) > -Go to | 'g' | Ctrl+G > -Generate keyframes... tweeking | 'j' | 'G' > -Jump forward... next Keyframes | 'k' | Shift+Right Arrow > -Jump backwards... next Keyframes | Shift+K | Shift+Left Arrow > -New Project... | 'n' | Ctrl+N > -Load files... | 'o' | Ctrl+O > -Save | 's' | Ctrl+S > -Save as... | Shift+S | Ctrl+Shift+S > -Save Session | Ctrl+S | (null) > -Select-> All | 'a' | Ctrl+A > -Deselect All | 'a' or null | Ctrl+Shift+A > -Undo | 'z', Ctrl+Z | Ctrl+Z > -Redo | Shift+Z | Shift+Z > -InPoint | '[', '<' | + 'I' > -OutPoint | ']', '>' | + 'O' > -Play Normal reverse | NumKP 6, Alt+O | + 'J' Normal&Fast > -Play Stop | NumKP 0, Alt+M | + 'K' > -Play Normal forward | NumKP 3, Alt+L | + 'L' Normal&Fast > -Jump backwards to the next cut | Alt+LeftArrow | + 'A' > -Jump forwards to the next cut | Alt+RightArrow | + 'S' > -One Frame back | NumKP 4, Alt+U | + ',' (comma) > -One Frame forward | NumKP 1, Alt+J | + '.' (period) > | | > -Load window: Select All files | Ctrl+A | Ctrl+A > -Load window: Deselect All files | Ctrl+Z | Ctrl+Shift+A > -BD Render... | Ctrl+Shift+d | (null) > -DVD Render... | Alt+d | (null) > -Delete last track | 'd'->Ctrl+D | Ctrl+D > -Quit | 'q' | Ctrl+Q > -Settings-> Save settings now | Ctrl+Shift+S | Shift+S > -Settings-> Align cursor on frames| Ctrl+A | Ctrl+F > ----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ > > To summarize the jumps backwards and forward: > ----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ > -Jump backwards to the next cut | Alt+LeftArrow, 'A' > -Jump forwards to the next cut | Alt+RightArrow, 'S' > -Jump backwards to the next label | Ctrl+LeftArrow > -Jump forwards to the next label | Ctrl+RightArrow > -Jump backwards... next Keyframes | Shift+LeftArrow > -Jump forward... next Keyframes | Shift+RightArrow > -Jump backwards to the next Autos | Ctrl+Shift+Alt+LeftArrow > -Jump forward to the next Autos | Ctrl+Shift+Alt+RightArrow > ----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ > "Shift+K" and "Ctrl+Shift+K" no longer used. > ################################################################# > > Thanks! ...Igorbeg > > > Il 25/08/2023 19:19, Andrea paz via Cin ha scritto: > > @All > > Other issue. As I report the differences, I become more and more > > convinced that I don't like to see this section in the manual. It > > gives me the idea that those who read it will lose the motivation to > > learn CinGG and go back to the other programs. I propose another > > possibility: create a separate pdf to put in our git (similar to your > > QuickStart) and leave only a note and download link in the manual. > > What do you think? I am undecided which is the best solution so I am > > asking for your advice. > -- > Cin mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >
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