One problem is that the docs can be difficult to access. The "Secrets of Cinelerra" document can be difficult to load. The TWiki manual can also be down for days at a time. There's a lot of good information in both spots.

I use Cinelerra because it works better than all the other options I've tried. I've tried a copy of products from Ulead and even the XP Movie Maker. I've found Cinelerra to be more robust and stable than any of those products. Plus, I've found the people on this list to be very helpful and responsive.

The great thing about open source software is that anyone can contribute. This thread started with a complaint that could have been a contribution. If Cinelerra is crashing, contribute by filing a bug report. If something isn't working right, contribute by asking a question -- and by making sure any answer you get is included in the documentation. If you can code,  contribute by coding.


On 7/31/06, Nicolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello everybody,

IMO, Cinelerra shouldn't be "rewritten" from the beginning. Cinelerra is
one of the few *nix tools I really like. The others being vim, mutt,
mjpeg, imagemagick, gimp and... the ksh tools.
Of course cinelerra isn't quite easy to start with. It's a NL video
editor. Reading the doc is definitely a must.
But as soon as you've read the doc, tried to understand how it works,
and ask for help on this mailing list (what I did, BTW), then you
discover cinelerra is really well made. I mean, ok, it's not easy at the
beginning, but when you understand how it works, it's really quick, easy
and powerful. And that is definitely the most important thing in my
opinion.
Let's take the export window for example. It's possible to export an
MJPEG stream, which can be encoded on the fly by the mjpegtools suite.
OK, it can look a bit complicated at first, but believe me, when you'll
have a look at all the possibilities offered by the mjpegtools suite,
you'll be very happy to be able to encode your videos with the settings
and the filters you need.

I'd be really disppointed to see that marvellous program to be
progressively bloated with stuff like an interface made for idiots and
something like a "Make you video wizard".
Using a NL video editor needs patience and attention. You can't use a NL
video editor as you use Kino for example.

What about your beginings in the Linux world? Did you install Linux and
then said it needs to be rewritten because it's too complicated?

Rather than complaining about the way cinelerra is, what about asking
questions here? That would help you to start with cinelerra, and then
you'd probably understand why it's made that way... I'm sure an
important part of people complaining about the cinelerra interface did
not spent more than 1 hour reading the doc...

Nicolas, Paris.

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