Hello Antonio,

> h264 or x264 are lossy codecs more suitable for postprodution.

x264 can create a lossless h.264 output. (--qp 0), ssim = 1, psnr = infinite.
and w/ (--keyint 1) w/ get h.264 intra-only.

> The best codec depends in the codec from your source tapes to keep as much
> quality as possible in the editing without artifacts in the image.

when capturing from SDI, HDMI, or analoc input, the video comes uncompressed, 
so I think the best codec is a lossless one.

> DV have a problem of croma subsampling that don't have DVPRO or DV50

that true, usually people converts dv to some codec w/ a better croma 
subsampling (4:2:2), then edits the footage.
thas why is nice for us to set a optimal codec for the intermediate codec.
: )

bye,
rafael diniz

>
> Antonio
>
> --- On Sat, 4/10/08, rafael2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: rafael2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [CinCV] Best lossless codec for edition and exportation (was:
> > input format for MP4 576p at 50fps) To: [email protected]
> > Date: Saturday, 4 October, 2008, 2:49 AM
> > Hey people,
> > And how about the best lossless, compressed codec that can
> > be used to edit?
> > Is h.264 Intra ok for editing?
> > I use to use DV to edit and for exporting x264 in lossless
> > mode (w/ flac or
> > alac as audio).
> >
> > how about muxing? I see that both ffmpeg and mencoder have
> > buggy muxers for
> > some stream formats (at least here, they failed to mux
> > h.264 + flac in mkv,
> > avi, mov or mp4).
> >
> > I'm using yuv4mpeg pipe to create h.264 lossless output
> > using (very fast in
> > quad-core machines):
> > ln -s /dev/stdin /tmp/video.y4m ; x264 --qp 0 --no-cabac
> > --subme 1 --keyint
> > 1 --threads auto /tmp/video.y4m -o %
> >
> >
> > bye,
> > rafael diniz
> >
> > Em Thursday 02 October 2008, Florian Cramer escreveu:
> > > On Thursday, October 02 2008, 20:02 (+0200), Martin
> >
> > Kápostá? wrote:
> > > > files in DV, that is OK. The case i am writing is
> >
> > that DV supports only
> >
> > > > 25fps. Could you please suggest the best format
> >
> > to use 50fps clip in
> >
> > > > Cinelerra ofcourse uncompressed.
> > >
> > > [DV is actually not uncompressed, but a lossy codec
> >
> > that degrades video
> >
> > > quite a lot if you transcode from better source
> >
> > material.]
> >
> > > I had a similar question here on the list just few
> >
> > days ago. After a lot
> >
> > > of experimenting, I found the solution myself. Since
> >
> > Cinelerra's
> >
> > > preferred uncompressed format is yuv2 video and pcm
> >
> > audio in a QuickTime
> >
> > > container, the following command line should render
> >
> > practically any
> >
> > > video file into something that can be opened and
> >
> > edited in Cinelerra:
> > > transcode -y mov -F yuv2 -N 0x1 -i <input file>
> >
> > -o output.mov
> >
> > > [Neither ffmpeg, nor mencoder seem to be able to
> >
> > create yuv2 video
> >
> > > streams, btw.]
> > >
> > > Florian



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