Frans de Boer wrote:
> On 04/06/2010 09:12 AM, Christian Thaeter wrote:
>> Frans de Boer wrote:
>>   
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I am using CV 2.1 and am still waiting for the CV 4.1 version.
>>> As the developers have stated before - that the original authors where
>>> interested in features, not stability and thus usability - I just wonder
>>> why there is no CV 4.1 release yet. Is it because the original 4.1
>>> release is so much more stable today? Or is it a matter of fading
>>> interest and/or lack of time?
>>>
>>> Waiting for Luminera (or so) seems to be waiting for ..... well, fill in
>>> the dots.
>>>     
>> CV means Community Version, waiting will not make any progress, both
>> projects depens on the community to improve it. We really need helpers,
>> both, Lumiera and Cinelerra. There is some lack of development
>> resources, while you sit, twiddling your thumbs, consider to help in
>> some part.
>>
>>
>>      Christian
>>
>>   
> Hm, not all of us users are proficient programmers. I have done my share
> in the past, but that's a long time ago.
> Instead of the negative undertone I feel, some positive remarks could
> have been made. Like, how I could help while not being a programmer.
> Beside, any comments on the stability of the original 4.1 version?

Sorry about the negative undertone, I am just a bit demotivated about so
much demand and no so much people showing up helping, well that seems to
be a general case on free projects.

I can't say much about 4.1 stability, i've once compiled it with no much
efforts (few trivial changes in the code) and it worked for me. There
are some bugfixes as well as new features which may introduce new bugs.
I'd don't expect miracles, while 2.1 is reasonable stable for me (after
 learning how to avoid the bugs).

For Cinelerra I don't exactly know what non-programming tasks are
pending. I recently asked if someone could help out with administrating
the server, that would be one. Migration of the mailinglist to the
Cinelerra server could also be done. Caring for web content and
documentation, but I dont know the current state there.

For Lumiera, there are some tasks non programmers can so. The Website
reorganization is still pending, raffa is very busy and can't help with
that currently. Andrew and Wouter have some other duties too. Then there
are some mildly programming tasks as in shell scripting and stuff for
the insfrastructure, people dont need to be programming gurus to help
there. Documentation improvements (as easy as just care for formatting,
no need for writing documentation, we developers do that, but some hands
making it look better would be welcome). Some volunteer for mailinglist
moderation (deleting spam, maybe caring for spam filtering) and such.
Some tasks are quite simple one time things others are labor intensive
or ongoing. But any help would be welcome.

        Christian

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