On 04/06/2010 04:20 PM, Christian Thaeter wrote:
> Frans de Boer wrote:
>   
>> On 04/06/2010 09:12 AM, Christian Thaeter wrote:
>>     
>>> Frans de Boer wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I am using CV 2.1 and am still waiting for the CV 4.1 version.
>>>> As the developers have stated before - that the original authors where
>>>> interested in features, not stability and thus usability - I just wonder
>>>> why there is no CV 4.1 release yet. Is it because the original 4.1
>>>> release is so much more stable today? Or is it a matter of fading
>>>> interest and/or lack of time?
>>>>
>>>> Waiting for Luminera (or so) seems to be waiting for ..... well, fill in
>>>> the dots.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> CV means Community Version, waiting will not make any progress, both
>>> projects depens on the community to improve it. We really need helpers,
>>> both, Lumiera and Cinelerra. There is some lack of development
>>> resources, while you sit, twiddling your thumbs, consider to help in
>>> some part.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Christian
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Hm, not all of us users are proficient programmers. I have done my share
>> in the past, but that's a long time ago.
>> Instead of the negative undertone I feel, some positive remarks could
>> have been made. Like, how I could help while not being a programmer.
>> Beside, any comments on the stability of the original 4.1 version?
>>     
> Sorry about the negative undertone, I am just a bit demotivated about so
> much demand and no so much people showing up helping, well that seems to
> be a general case on free projects.
>
> I can't say much about 4.1 stability, i've once compiled it with no much
> efforts (few trivial changes in the code) and it worked for me. There
> are some bugfixes as well as new features which may introduce new bugs.
> I'd don't expect miracles, while 2.1 is reasonable stable for me (after
>  learning how to avoid the bugs).
>
> For Cinelerra I don't exactly know what non-programming tasks are
> pending. I recently asked if someone could help out with administrating
> the server, that would be one. Migration of the mailinglist to the
> Cinelerra server could also be done. Caring for web content and
> documentation, but I dont know the current state there.
>
> For Lumiera, there are some tasks non programmers can so. The Website
> reorganization is still pending, raffa is very busy and can't help with
> that currently. Andrew and Wouter have some other duties too. Then there
> are some mildly programming tasks as in shell scripting and stuff for
> the insfrastructure, people dont need to be programming gurus to help
> there. Documentation improvements (as easy as just care for formatting,
> no need for writing documentation, we developers do that, but some hands
> making it look better would be welcome). Some volunteer for mailinglist
> moderation (deleting spam, maybe caring for spam filtering) and such.
> Some tasks are quite simple one time things others are labor intensive
> or ongoing. But any help would be welcome.
>
>       Christian
>
> _______________________________________________
>   
Christian,

Don't ask me to do stuff like maintaining web content. I am bound to
mesh things up.
However, making documents more readable is a task I could do well. Also,
shell programming (bash) is something I do on occasion also. Still
learning tricks their.

So, you can sent me some trial documents if you like. Let me spent my
time fruitfully instead of twiddling my thumbs ;)

Frans.

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