Thanks for your suggestion, David. I again looked at Cinelerra for Grandma 
(probably the tenth time) to try to figure out how to do some very simple 
editing. I loaded my .mpg file, which was NTSC Wide Screen (720X480, aspect 
16:9) and tried to cut out about 10 segments I did not want by doing:
"setting in/out points, clicking on that area and then cutting"

Only the last selection was actually deleted on my rendered output. Upon 
re-reading the tutorial, I now see that you can only set one in and one out 
point, which would explain this. So, how do I delete several segments from my 
video (including audio)? I see how to delete single frames, but that would be 
far too tedious!!! Is there a way to do this?

Now to Rendering, about which I am still highly confused!!!
First, I am not sure I understand the options: Project, Selection, In/Out 
Points.  I THINK I should be rendering the selection, but am not sure.

Next, even more confusing is how to set the format to create a regular, high 
quality 4:3 or 16:9 (720X480) NTSC .mpg (probably mpeg-2) including audio, 
probably the same as the input file with audio which is either PCM stereo or 
Dolby 5.1. In the tutorial, I see this:

To be viewed on computers with non-free operating systems:    For Windows: 
DVD-compliant MPEG-PS (MPEG2/AC3) or OGG (Theora/Vorbis) or AVI    For Mac: 
DVD-compliant MPEG-PS (MPEG2/AC3) or OGG (Theora/Vorbis) or MOVTo be burned on 
a DVD-Video: DVD-compliant MPEG-PS (MPEG2/AC3)
Firstly, I could not see an option "DVD-compliant MPEG-PS (MPEG2/AC3)". I must 
be missing something. Where is this option?
I tried OGG (Theora/Vorbis) but the results looked pretty bad. I also tried 
MOV, but neither OGG or MOV are supported by some of my programs (especially in 
Windows), so I had to convert those to .mpg using ffmpeg, and unwanted extra 
step.
If I try AVI, Cinelerra dies instantly!!!

So I am still stuck at the very beginning of trying to use Cinelerra. If I 
could do these two seemingly very simple things, then I could begin to try to 
make use of some of the more powerful capabilities.

Thanks for your help.

Murray



--- On Tue, 4/10/12, David Armstrong <[email protected]> wrote:

From: David Armstrong
 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Easy to understand work flows with Cinelerra
To: [email protected]
Received: Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 3:03 AM


  

    
  
  
    Murray,

    

    "Cinelerra for Grandma" is a good place to start.

    

        David

    

    

    

    On 10/04/12 13:10, Murray Strome wrote:
    
      
        
          
            Thank you for
              replies to this thread. I have now figured out how to use
              ffmpeg to import good quality video from DVDs recorded on
              my DVD recorders. They are now all NTSC 720X480 either 4:3
              or 16:9.

              

              I can import these to Cinelerra (or any of the other LINUX
              editors) but don't really know how to do the next steps.

              

              The first and most important is to simply edit the video
              to cut out certain segments of the .mpg file (e.g. the
              several minutes of the camera swinging around looking at
              the floor), and then create a new high quality .mpg file
              that I can use anywhere else. If I can get past this
              hurdle, I can then worry about tackling other things like
              transitions, etc..

              

              This involves two things:

              
                How do I cut out segments of the video that I don't
                  want?

                
                What settings do I use to render the results to
                  produce 720X480 NTSC compatible video with audio .mpg
                  file (either 4:3 or 16:9, depending upon the
                  original)?
              
              I have looked at many of the tutorials but I am
                probably too dense or too senile to really understand
                how to do this!!!
              

              
              Thanks for any help.

              
              

              
              Murray

              
              

              

            
          
        
      
    
  

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