[[ Just befor sending I realize that the first message I sent
fo [email protected] and not the list ]]
 
There was formatting in the hushmail message I sent, and I'm not sure
if any of the message got srubbed.  The length of the message is just
2k which is well allowed.  So I'll send link to the video I promised
in a recontructed reply (didn't receive my own message).

Pls. find the link further down.

> I have been working for weeks on end, and nevere imagined I would be
> able to correct 1920x1080 shaky jumpy and jerky footage (handheld
> mobile camera) to something imcomparably smoother and nicer, and quite
> viewable.  It's coming, I will try to demostrate in a tutorial video,
> so it be clear how much Cinelerra can do.
> 
> I used the motion plugin, and with rotation stabilization for most of
> the length of the footage.
> 
> However, it turns out that motion plugin with rotation, which is the
> current plugin, can only stabilize when the footage is not mouch
> distorted.
> 
> I believe people familiar with these tools figure out what I am
> saying, and in a day or two, I'll try and make the case for what would
> be great to do next, and what would make the plugin much more
> complete...
> 
> I will try and make a clear case as far as an intermediate user can, I
> am working hard, am doing my best.  Pls. bear with me.
> 
> And in the mean time, let me more imperfectly then with real example,
> and just shortly, explain what I mean, in words.
> 
> The screen in Cinelerra can be stabilize with motion plugin (rotation
> set along with all necessary adjustments), if if fits the, I'll call
> it B-frame screen, the one chosen to model the stabilization after
> (term used in video encoding).

I sure meant key-frames, not B-frames (message was written in the dead
of morning)

> 
> It must fit that B-frame screen in such way that it can be translated
> or transposed parallel to it.
> 
> As soon as we are talking such jerks and jumps or bumps into the hand
> holding mobile camera (and some other cases), that is not anymore the
> case.
> 
> The plugin leaves a shaky footage, poorly stabilized.
> 
> I hope it'll be much cleared for non-advanced users (this is
> sufficiently so for the devs already) once I prepare the real world
> stuff.
> 
> I searched the mailing list and documentation and I have not found
> that this is being developed in Cinelerra currenty.
> 
> If it is, pls. ppint me to the righ place to try and find more about
> it.
> 
> What i missing I call Perspective correction after imagemagick's $
> convert ... -draw Perspective ...  methed which gave me some results

This first message of mine was in the dead of morning after a
sleepless headachy night, let me coorect, that I tried to talk of

"perspective correction" after the

$ convert ... -distort Perspective ...

method in the imagemagick

> (but at such huge expense of time that is is not really reasonably
> useable) where Cinelerra's motion plugin failed.
> 
> Bear up with me, pls! It's not a matter of a quarter of an hour to
> make this case, it is possibly up to a day to go,, not more,
> hopefully!
> 

The video, part 1, without the perspective correction talk, is here:


http://youtu.be/jWqDhFpcRjk

Lectio 12, Cinerella Morion Stabilization (Krug za Trg)  PART 1

More time needed to try and present the case for perspective
correction (again, as user).

No replies yet, but I can still assure you that
1) motion stabilization sure is an itchy topic
2) perspective correction would be great!

I spent a lot of time to make that video, and it is unfinished, for
me, but I can tell that the '-distort Perspective' method did not
really get me anything useful, and it is a pain to do those
neverending manual attempts on single frames.

What I am saying still can be of much with without the second part of
my real world, and I mean the "Lectio 12 Cinelerra Motion
Stabilization PART 2" (which I intend to call the second part).
But I can give those manual commands on the single frames gotten with

$ ffmpeg -i VIDEO.mkv -f image 2 DIR/SINGLE-FRAMES-%5d.png

(that ffmpeg command gives you exact frames, 30 per second in my case,
in PNG format)
[[ that can later be rolled back into video with:

 ffmpeg -r 30 -i DIR/SINGLE-FRAMES-%5d.png -map 0:v -c:v libx264 -g 10 \
 VIDEO_fromPNGs.mkv

]]

Let me see...

rm Try03/ts-03684.png && convert O/ts-03684.png -virtual-pixel black \
-distort Perspective  \
'0,0,0,0 0,1080,0,1080 1920,-15,1920,0 1920,1080,1920,1080'  \
 -define png:color-type=6 -trim -repage -1-1\! \
 Try03/ts-03684.png 

which is a real world command I used in another box of mine, where I
don't know if the -define option is necessary, but the other ones
are... Real world command where Try03 is dir for trying and O is the
dir of original frames.

Pls. somebody gives us feedback, else I get impression I'm boring
you...
:-)

I used Hushmail to post this, and I'll probably go back now to using
my name and contacts. I just really like to be off surveillance for
the sake of the beauty of privicy, and so I used Hushmail.

Miroslav Rovis
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091 266 0202
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essentially 
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/Miroslav_Rovis_politicki_progon/
# but no English there at this time
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