Peter,
 
There is no issue with MPLS. Take a look here:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/122sx/swcg/m
plsqos.htm
 
Arie


________________________________

        From: Peter Basquiat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 00:16 AM
        To: Arie Vayner (avayner)
        Cc: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 7600 Linecard decisision
        
        


        2007/5/5, Arie Vayner (avayner) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

                PFC can do policing (actually it has some different
policing options over the regular policing in regular IOS), but it can't
do shaping.
                Queuing is done on the egress linecard.


        As i understood the 1pXqXt WRR/DWRR queueing is only possible
with COS-Mapping. Does this mean that's not possible in MPLS core 
        to prioritize? I assume that on MPLS swapping LSR only EXP
values are available and not DSCP or Prec.
        


                Arie


________________________________

                        From: Peter Basquiat
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
                        Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 21:33 PM
                        To: Arie Vayner (avayner)
                        Cc: [email protected] 
                        
                        Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 7600 Linecard decisision
                        

                        
                        Arie, thanks for your answer.
                        
                        When comparing this two different QoS models
with each other, where are the main differences?
                        Are there real disadvantages compared to
"normal" CBWFQ?
                        I believe that I will never use all possible
classes in CBWFQ. It seems that PFC-QoS only supports 
                        up to 8 queues, this would be enough for our
purposes. 
                        Per (Ethernet Subinterface/Frame-Relay VC)
Queueing/Shaping/Policing should be possible, i dont think
                        that the PFC isnt able to do that, right?
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        2007/5/5, Arie Vayner (avayner)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

                                Peter,
                                
                                The main difference is that all the
"native" LAN modules on the 7600
                                (meaning all the WS-X65/67 etc) can't
actually support the "normal"
                                class-based QoS model, but use a
different model. 
                                You can read about it here:
        
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/122sx/swcg/q
                                os.htm
                                
                                This has to do with the way the packets
are being handled inside the 
                                device. For the native LAN modules, all
QoS functionality is done on the
                                PFC, and it supports only the above QoS
functionality.
                                
                                When using SIP modules (or older
OSM/FlexWan modules), the QoS
                                functionality (as well as other things
such as MPLS features) are 
                                enhanced by the fact that the SIP has
extended processing resources on
                                the module and the software allows using
this processing power for
                                features which are not available on the
native LAN modules. This
                                explains the additional cost - the SIPs
have much more hardware on them 
                                (such as processor, memory etc)
                                
                                I think you can find some interesting
reading on the SIPs here:
        
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/core/cis7600/76sipspa/si

                                pspasw/index.htm
                                
                                Arie
                                
                                -----Original Message-----
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                                [mailto:
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<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Peter Basquiat
                                Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 19:09 PM
                                To: [email protected]
                                Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 7600 Linecard
decisision 
                                
                                It's not really clear in which direction
our QoS stuff will expand. At
                                the moment Iam thinking on typically
class-based wfq on core and edge.
                                
                                What are the differences regarding QoS
on the WS-X6582-2PA compared to 
                                SIP400/SPA?
                                
                                Other question: talking about features,
what's with the WS-X67xx
                                modules, are there other/more features
available or do they have only
                                more bandwidth?
                                
                                SIP400+SPA is much more expensive,
without knowledge about the exact 
                                advantages it's really
                                hard to judge.
                                
                                
                                >Peter,
                                >
                                >Going for the SIP/SPA combination would
allow you more features
                                >especially
                                with regards to QoS and VPN PE-CE
support.
                                >Can you expand a bit about what kind of
core/access QoS you require? 
                                >
                                >Arie
        
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