Isn't BFD supposed to help in these "brain-dead" cases ?
(IGPs 'dead' timers should also kick-in, but usually BFD would be doing 
this much faster).


David Coulson wrote:
> When the GSR stops routing, I'm guessing it doesn't drop IGP 
> adjacencies? That's usually what I rely on to figure out if a router is 
> useless, although maybe it won't help for you in this situation.
> 
> I'd be more concerned as to why the GSR 'stops routing' than trying to 
> rebuild the network around it. Do you have multiple GSRs, and do they 
> all misbehave, or is it only a specific router or specific IOS/IOS XR 
> release? I'm not sure if a second GRP would help, since I'm sure the 
> active CPU doesn't notice anything bad is happening - It might be 
> something as simple as FIB table problems on the line cards or 
> something. Personally, I'd drop any IGP/EGP and then poke at it while 
> it's in it's non-routing state. Dropping interfaces will probably mess 
> with the CEF tables (I would think).
> 
> Maybe you could track against something on the other side of the GSR via 
> icmp echo requests? Again, not sure if you can do something like modify 
> interface costs, or simply drop adjacencies based on the track state.
> 
> Drew Weaver wrote:
>>         Hi there, I lurk here quite a bit and have even asked a few 
>> questions. I'm trying to figure out the best scheme for redundant 
>> connections on an ISP/provider network which is three tiered. The Internet 
>> Border, the aggregation layer, and the distribution layer (distribution 
>> layer is effectively the customer connection point).
>>
>> I have tried coming up with ways to make the connections from the 
>> aggregation layer to the Internet Border layer totally redundant.
>>
>> At the moment we're simply running multiple gig-e connections and using 
>> routes with hardware tags and the same priority to handle load 
>> sharing/redundancy.
>>
>> I suppose I should get to the question portion :D
>>
>> Anyway, we experienced an issue a few weeks back where one of our GSR12000s 
>> simply refused to do any IP routing, it was up, it was 'fine' for all 
>> intents and purposes but it simply wouldn't route traffic, none of the 
>> interfaces went down, so obviously the aggregation layer switches continued 
>> to attempt to send traffic 'through' this "dead" router.
>>
>> I've done a little research and so far the only redundancy methods I have 
>> seen all tend to rely on the interfaces going down, what if the interface 
>> doesn't go down? What if, to the switches/routers downstream everything 
>> "appears" to be working?
>>
>> Is there a particular scheme for downstream switches to verify that an 
>> upstream router is actually functioning "properly" on a periodic basis?
>>
>> Also, when routing 'fails' on a gsr12000 would it help if we had a secondary 
>> route processor installed in the box? (i.e., would it take over?)
>>
>> Sorry if this question is elementary, but we're doing a retrofit soon and I 
>> would like to nail down some different solutions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  [email protected]
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>   
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-nsp mailing list  [email protected]
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/

_______________________________________________
cisco-nsp mailing list  [email protected]
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/

Reply via email to