Hi All, Pete Templin wrote: > Jason Gurtz wrote: > >>> I think it's a challenge coming with any system that is >>> perfect. The issue here is balance. This strikes a balance in >>> favor of expecting a level of uptime from your ISPs. If they >>> were rebooting once a month you might not be very happy. >> As another person noted, severe issues will be dealt with on demand so >> it's not as bad as it could be. Yet, who decides if an issue is severe? >> Why should Cisco be determining the maintenance window to this IMO rather >> lengthy degree. Granted, we're not talking about windows patching, but >> still... > > Think of this at a higher level: you "have" to patch, so now you get to > plan your maintenance windows.
not getting at you here Pete, but why do you "have" to patch? Cisco release software all the time that fixes bugs (and introduces new features), should you always be on the latest release everywhere? Are they now talking about purely bug fixes? This is not a windows box, where you automatically apply every update. If there is a bug fix for IPX and I am not running IPX (extreme example these days), I am not going to upgrade for the sake of it. When you have dozens of platforms (1700, x800, 7600/6500, 7200, 7300, 2900, 3560, 3550......) each on several releases depending on age and feature requirements, unless a new release fixes something you are actually experiencing are you going to always upgrade thousand of boxes for issues you don't have, with associated testing, deployment and rollback? >Previously, the patches "just came". > And on the severe issues, you wouldn't have gotten notice anyway unless > it got so wild that the exploit itself got press. Yup, and I still need to read the release notes to see if what has changed impacts me. -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Any offers or quotation of service are subject to formal specification. Errors and omissions excepted. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Lumison, nplusone or lightershade ltd. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Lumison, nplusone and lightershade ltd accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
