Gregory Boehnlein wrote:
This is very similar to what we do. While we have several customers that
need larger subnets, the majority of our customers are using IP Unnumbered.

In some cases, we will provide the customer a /29 if they need additional
external IP addresses, but the configuration on their router uses the low IP
in the /29 as it's loopback interface. We send our default route out of the
interface, rather than to the remote gateway IP, so if we change the ip of
the loopback on our side, we do not need to adjust anything for the
customer.

That's not a bad idea. Though wouldn't pointing a default at an interface force it to ARP constantly? Several hundred CEs ARPing non-stop could be a load issue on your PE.

I'm not too worried about the loopback's IP changing. I only put a /24 on the loopback to get us started. I'll load it with customer DS1s until I get to around 90% IP utilization and then create another loopback with another /24 or perhaps a /23 this time around. I padded the front of the subnet sufficiently to allow for future HA projects and the unforeseeable. I can't foresee ever needing to change the IP on a loopback once I have it in production.

We use outbound service policies on unnumbered interfaces just fine:

interface Serial10/1/0/3:0
 description L3 OH/XXXX/XXXX to XXXXXXX channel 12
 ip unnumbered Loopback0
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 service-policy output llq
 no fair-queue
 down-when-looped
 no clns route-cache

Excellent. QoS was something that occurred to me as I was writing my original message.


ip route X.X.X.X 255.255.255.248 Serial10/1/0/3:0 name CustomerRouteA

So you'd prefer to route a larger customer assignment to the the CE-facing interface instead of to their assigned IP unnumbered address?

I've been doing ip unnumbered since 1995 in production and it "just works".
There are undoubtedly some routers out there that might have issues, but any
Cisco device should be able to handle things just fine.

Very good. On the CE side I really don't anticipate many problems. I see this as more of a CE knowledge thing than anything. I'm sure we'll have several customers that need something special. I hope that for the most part we can lump them all into an IP unnumbered design.

Thanks for the input
 Justin

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