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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 9.1 Upgrade Times (Matthew Loraditch)
   2. Re: FWD one Ext to Another (Ryan Ratliff)
   3. Re: 9.1 Upgrade Times (Matthew Loraditch)
   4. License migration: 8.6 -> 9.0 (Jos? Paulo de Oliveira Petry)
   5. Re: 9.1 Upgrade Times (Tim Frazee)
   6. Re: License migration: 8.6 -> 9.0 (Nate VanMaren)
   7. UCCX cluster (Leslie Meade)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:06:25 +0000
From: Matthew Loraditch <[email protected]>
To: Matthew Loraditch <[email protected]>,
        "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 9.1 Upgrade Times
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Well my CUCM publisher took almost 13 hours, my sub took 1 hour and change... 
the unity connection pub is still running, I think we are on hour 15 of that...


Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA

1965 Greenspring Drive
Timonium, MD 21093

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fax.  410.252.9284

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [cisco-voip] 9.1 Upgrade Times

On a Unity Connection system and CUCM both 8.6.2aSU1 started at 11:45PM and 
12:12AM Last night, both are STILL running at 8:45 AM this morning. The system 
I am doing this test on has about 60 Phones/Users/VM. These are the publishers 
of each install, but I have never had an upgrade take this long, ever.

I'm now not sure I'll even be able to finish in my window since I haven't even 
touched the subscribers yet.

Any clues as to why this is taking so long? I used to disable iothrottle during 
an upgrade but that command is deprecated now.


Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA

1965 Greenspring Drive
Timonium, MD 21093

voice. 410.252.8830
fax.  410.252.9284

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:06:07 -0500
From: Ryan Ratliff <[email protected]>
To: David Zhars <[email protected]>
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FWD one Ext to Another
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>  I assumed (there's that word) that applying 1212 as an alternate ext to 
> 1702, would mean the user would STILL have to login SEPARATELY to both VM 
> boxes to get messages.

The use of an alternate extension is for the case when there is only one 
mailbox in Unity, with two extensions that could be calling into it (forwarded 
or not).  

-Ryan

On Jan 13, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Erick B. <[email protected]> wrote:

Yes, in unity add 1212 as alternate extension to the 1702 users mailbox and any 
calls for 1702 or 1212 will go to that users mailbox. The ** transfer method 
will still work with this to (assuming the ** pattern sends call those calls to 
voicemail directly on your setup)

I would use a translation pattern on CUCM to route calls from 1212 to 1702 
unless you need to keep 1212 on a phone/etc for some reason. 


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:49 PM, David Zhars <[email protected]> wrote:
So my confusion has to extend from not having a solid understanding of an 
"alternate extension" in Unity.  I assumed (there's that word) that applying 
1212 as an alternate ext to 1702, would mean the user would STILL have to login 
SEPARATELY to both VM boxes to get messages.  Are you saying that if I add 1212 
as an alternate, he needs only check messages for ext 1702, and anything that 
went to 1212 would be in the 1702 box??  Cause that would be way easy!



On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Ryan Ratliff <[email protected]> wrote:
A translation pattern is one option, the other is a DN for 1212 (not assigned 
to a phone) with CFA set to 1702.  You'll want to test your usual call flows so 
that the fact that every call to 1702 will be a forwarded calls.  For example 
if you have any calling party selections on outbound gateways set to 'first 
redirecting number' you may end up seeing 1212 instead of 1702 as the calling 
party number.   Calls that end up in voicemail will also be sent to the mailbox 
of 1212.  

The routing rule in Unity would basically be: Any redirected call with an 
original called party number of 1212, send it to standard greeting for 1702.   
I bet you could also just ad 1212 as an alternate extension for 1702 and you'll 
be set.

-Ryan

On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:51 PM, David Zhars <[email protected]> wrote:

OK, here's my dilemma.  1212 doesn't exist as far as UCM is concerned.  I 
suppose I could recreate it as a CTI Route point??

Ryan, not sure what you mean about Unity sending calls from 1212 to 1702.  

Sounds like a translation pattern in UCM may be the way to go, delete the 1212 
mailbox in Unity, so if someone does try and transfer a call to that VM  it 
would error out.  

While I want this to be easy for the end users, I also want it to be easy for 
me!


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Ryan Ratliff <[email protected]> wrote:
Unity call routing rule to send calls from 1212 to 1702, should be pretty 
straight forward. 
-Ryan

On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:32 PM, David Zhars <[email protected]> wrote:

Old user had ext 1212 (and this is a DID, so people can call directly from the 
outside).
New user has ext 1702.

What I want is:

Internally: User dials 1212, phone rings at 1702.
Internally: Reception takes a call, transfers it with TRANS **1212 TRANS, call 
goes to 1702 voicemail.

Externally: Someone calls 555-1212 and the call lands internally at 1702.

Some of this I know how to do, I am not sure about the transfer to voicemail of 
the old extension and have it land at the new ext VM.

Appreciate any help!

Dave

UCM 8.0, Unity 8.0


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:26:39 +0000
From: Matthew Loraditch <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 9.1 Upgrade Times
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So I figured I'd loop around and let everyone know how things ended up.
Unity Connection never finished the first attempt and wouldn't cancel either. I 
had to force a shutdown. After it came back up I tried again... 90 minutes 
boom. Suffice it to say. I wish had done that sooner.


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1965 Greenspring Drive
Timonium, MD 21093

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fax.  410.252.9284

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From: Matthew Loraditch
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:06 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch; [email protected]
Subject: RE: 9.1 Upgrade Times

Well my CUCM publisher took almost 13 hours, my sub took 1 hour and change... 
the unity connection pub is still running, I think we are on hour 15 of that...


Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA

1965 Greenspring Drive
Timonium, MD 21093

voice. 410.252.8830
fax.  410.252.9284

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From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:58 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] 9.1 Upgrade Times

On a Unity Connection system and CUCM both 8.6.2aSU1 started at 11:45PM and 
12:12AM Last night, both are STILL running at 8:45 AM this morning. The system 
I am doing this test on has about 60 Phones/Users/VM. These are the publishers 
of each install, but I have never had an upgrade take this long, ever.

I'm now not sure I'll even be able to finish in my window since I haven't even 
touched the subscribers yet.

Any clues as to why this is taking so long? I used to disable iothrottle during 
an upgrade but that command is deprecated now.


Matthew G. Loraditch - CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA

1965 Greenspring Drive
Timonium, MD 21093

voice. 410.252.8830
fax.  410.252.9284

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:42:30 -0200
From: Jos? Paulo de Oliveira Petry <[email protected]>
To: Cisco VoIPoE List <[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] License migration: 8.6 -> 9.0
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Hello,

I have a 8.6 CUCM running with 1700 DLUs and did a upgrade to 9.0.

To migrate licenses (DLU to CUWL) im using this doc:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/9x/migratn.html#wp1067112

After i add the CUCM instance, im trying to use the Migration Utility, but
im receiving this error:

"There are no Unified CM product instances with pre-9.0 licenses available
for upgrade"

Any suggestion?

Regards,

Jos? Paulo de Oliveira Petry
[email protected]
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:45:00 -0600
From: Tim Frazee <[email protected]>
To: Matthew Loraditch <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 9.1 Upgrade Times
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so would you suggest a clean reboot before the upgrade of CUC to at least
9.1 ?

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Matthew Loraditch <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  So I figured I?d loop around and let everyone know how things ended up.**
> **
>
> Unity Connection never finished the first attempt and wouldn?t cancel
> either. I had to force a shutdown. After it came back up I tried again? 90
> minutes boom. Suffice it to say. I wish had done that sooner. ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Matthew G. Loraditch ? CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA
>
> 1965 Greenspring Drive
> Timonium, MD 21093
>
> voice. 410.252.8830
> fax.  410.252.9284
>
> Twitter <http://twitter.com/heliontech>  |  
> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Helion/252157915296>
> | Website <http://www.heliontechnologies.com/>  |  Email 
> Support<[email protected]?subject=Technical%20Support%20Request>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Matthew Loraditch
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:06 PM
> *To:* Matthew Loraditch; [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: 9.1 Upgrade Times****
>
> ** **
>
> Well my CUCM publisher took almost 13 hours, my sub took 1 hour and
> change? the unity connection pub is still running, I think we are on hour
> 15 of that?****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Matthew G. Loraditch ? CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA
>
> 1965 Greenspring Drive
> Timonium, MD 21093
>
> voice. 410.252.8830
> fax.  410.252.9284
>
> Twitter <http://twitter.com/heliontech>  |  
> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Helion/252157915296>
> | Website <http://www.heliontechnologies.com/>  |  Email 
> Support<[email protected]?subject=Technical%20Support%20Request>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
> *On Behalf Of *Matthew Loraditch
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:58 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] 9.1 Upgrade Times****
>
> ** **
>
> On a Unity Connection system and CUCM both 8.6.2aSU1 started at 11:45PM
> and 12:12AM Last night, both are STILL running at 8:45 AM this morning. The
> system I am doing this test on has about 60 Phones/Users/VM. These are the
> publishers of each install, but I have never had an upgrade take this long,
> ever.****
>
> ** **
>
> I?m now not sure I?ll even be able to finish in my window since I haven?t
> even touched the subscribers yet.****
>
> ** **
>
> Any clues as to why this is taking so long? I used to disable iothrottle
> during an upgrade but that command is deprecated now.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Matthew G. Loraditch ? CCNP-Voice, CCNA, CCDA
>
> 1965 Greenspring Drive
> Timonium, MD 21093
>
> voice. 410.252.8830
> fax.  410.252.9284
>
> Twitter <http://twitter.com/heliontech>  |  
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> | Website <http://www.heliontechnologies.com/>  |  Email 
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:45:26 +0000
From: Nate VanMaren <[email protected]>
To: Jos? Paulo de Oliveira Petry <[email protected]>, Cisco VoIPoE
        List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] License migration: 8.6 -> 9.0
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Run from 9.0 and do 9.1.  You'll have to redo all of the licenses when you go 
to 9.1 anyways.

All of the 9.0 upgrades that I did the ELM work flawlessly once the ESXi host 
that it was on had a proper NIC teaming configuration.

-Nate

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jos? Paulo de Oliveira 
Petry
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:43 AM
To: Cisco VoIPoE List
Subject: [cisco-voip] License migration: 8.6 -> 9.0

Hello,

I have a 8.6 CUCM running with 1700 DLUs and did a upgrade to 9.0.

To migrate licenses (DLU to CUWL) im using this doc:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/9x/migratn.html#wp1067112

After i add the CUCM instance, im trying to use the Migration Utility, but im 
receiving this error:

"There are no Unified CM product instances with pre-9.0 licenses available for 
upgrade"

Any suggestion?

Regards,

Jos? Paulo de Oliveira Petry
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:56:35 +0000
From: Leslie Meade <[email protected]>
To: "cisco-voip ([email protected])"
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Subject: [cisco-voip] UCCX cluster
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I am adding a new uccx server into a cluster. I have been told that once this 
is done, there will be an outage while the Data base is replicated to the HA.
Is this true ? I am trying to find doc on this


Cheers


Leslie

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