I think shared lines are gonna cause you more grief. Especially if they're 
centrally located, in quadrants so to speak. Guessing out loud, an emergency is 
probably going to affect multiple people, in the same area, think fire. If it's 
a shared line in a quadrant, all those people are going to want to dial 911. 
Outbound calling with shared lines is not the best. 

I think you should consider creating a separate partition, and using those for 
your logged out extensions. They're not dialable by anything but the system 
processes that needs to dial them. Because it's a system process dialing them, 
they don't have to even be the same length, since interdigit dialing does not 
come into play. Actually a different length would be better so you don't have 
duplicates. 

If you really must be able to dial them from other phones, than you can use 
dialing codes, say *99-123 will reach logged out extension 123. 

Just some thoughts. 


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----- Original Message -----

From: "Scott Voll" <[email protected]> 
To: "Ryan Ratliff (rratliff)" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "cisco-voip voyp list" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:20:04 AM 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Remove lines on phones with BAT 


how about a shared line per floor? 


Scott 




On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) < [email protected] > 
wrote: 



And no, you can't put a shared line on 1300 phones. Use a different DN range or 
something and let CER handle the translations for you just like it would any 
other phone. 


-Ryan 




On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Erick Wellnitz < [email protected] > wrote: 



Use a partition that isn't accessible by anything except CER CTI ports. 






On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Scott Voll < [email protected] > wrote: 

<blockquote>

OK I get the picture....... 


So if I'm going to put a line on all phones, can I put a shared line on all 
1300 phones? If so, how does CER work? will the PSAP call back the line or does 
it call back the phone? 


I have a dialing plan that doesn't allow for much in the way of non DID numbers 
so have a very limited amount to use. 


TIA 


Scott 




On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Wes Sisk (wsisk) < [email protected] > wrote: 

<blockquote>

Agreed with Ryan, Anthony, and Erick. 


Give the phones DN’s, even just internal DN’s. It is “burning a DN” in the 
sense that number is allocated. That number does not have to be a DID. Give the 
phones/lines a CSS that PLAR’s to a help desk. Or at least allow them to invoke 
local emergency services - private or public. 


-Wes 




On Oct 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Erick Wellnitz < [email protected] > wrote: 


Not having lines on a physical phone can be a career altering decision if 
someone needs to dial emergency services and they grab the nearest logged out 
phone. There could also be legal issues but I'm not a lawyer so take that for 
what you will. 


On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Anthony Holloway < 
[email protected] > wrote: 

<blockquote>

That's a "Yes" for my experiences. The logout profile or default state of the 
phone has a nonDID in most cases, DID in a few cases (with a CSS restriction 
for Internal and EMS), and the UDP of the user has a DID in most cases, nonDID 
in a few cases (with typical CSS). 


On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Scott Voll < [email protected] > wrote: 

<blockquote>

So what are people doing in a Extension Mobility only environment? Burning two 
DN's? one for the user and one for every phone? 


scott 









On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) < [email protected] 
> wrote: 

<blockquote>

Auto-reg will provision lines as well, and I agree with Anthony. 
I don't think anyone wants to deal with the potential issue of somebody picking 
up a phone to dial emergency services and not getting dialtone. 


-Ryan 



On Oct 29, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Anthony Holloway < [email protected] 
> wrote: 



Scott, 

SIP or SCCP, either way, for emergency reasons you don't want phones laying 
about, unable to save a life when people depend on the reliability of 911. 


Here's one option without knowing your environment design or limitations: Setup 
Auto Registration and then Bulk Delete all the phones. 


On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

<blockquote>
All phones? SIP phones won't register without a line. 

-Ryan 



On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Scott Voll < [email protected] > wrote: 

is there a way to bulk delete all lines on all phones? 

we are moving to extension mobility and want to remove all the lines on all the 
phones 

Thanks 

scott 

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