<beginrant>
Is there an ISO/application that this method does not work with?
http://htluo.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-make-non-bootable-iso-image.html
I have never really understood the true purpose of the whole
non-bootable ISO thing. It seems trivial to work around, yet leaves at
least a veiled threat that your system won't be supported if you do it.
Did they really build logging into the installer to check and see if you
are using a "original" bootable ISO, after modifying an image it still
passes the image verification??
You are going to license it anyways and who in the right mind would want
to take the risks associated with an unlicensed and unsupported system?
So why make the install an unneeded complex hassle for the installer?
What benefit does this provide to anyone except someone being paid per
hour to install a system and the apparent outsourced contracting groups
that works under the GLO BU?
As for downloading RHEL, seems Redhat does now require a portal login
before allowing you to download the images. I don't recall this being
the case a few years ago. Some question for RHEL, why would I want to
run your software for a critical purpose if you aren't going to provide
updates without an account? If you don't provide updates I'm going to
either purchase the support to run the system in a supported manner
(which production environment why would I want the personal risk from
not doing this in the first place?), or use CentOS which will provide at
least provide updates and support from the community (or some other
distro). I highly doubt, there is a large or even small user base of
bootable UCM systems being used to run other applications on RHEL. I
guess it's possible but why?
Please Cisco, if you feel the need to implement licensing controls in
your software please do it in a simple, effective and well implemented
and supported manner. Having correctly licensed products not function
well in production environments do to issues with the licensing modules
in simply unacceptable when the software is properly licensed.
ELM/PLM have been a great overall improvement but seems to function best
with UCM and CUC, they seem to still have some issues related to CER
under PLM. I understand that LRM for Cisco Agent Desktop is likely not
originally created by Cisco but Calabrio, and will be obsolete soon; but
some of just the licensing related issues with this product is frankly a
reason to start drinking at an unhealthy rate in and of itself. It
should be as simple to re-license your products with valid support
contracts as ordering from Amazon, but we just aren't there yet. It
still feels like going to a dentist which uses improper equipment and
training to have a tooth drilled with as trying to have
[email protected] fulfill a manual order correctly in the first few
attempts, let alone a timely manner.
</endrant>
-Gentoo
On 2015-05-22 09:22, Anthony Holloway wrote:
Thanks Brian. And from what you recall, this whole "don't make it
easy" game which TAC engages in....how do we play it with them?
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:18 AM Brian Meade <[email protected]> wrote:
Agreement with Red Hat. They don't want people being able to
easily download Red Hat. There were some rumors of CUCM 11.x being
on CentOS which would allow us to just keep the bootables on
cisco.com [1] but I don't think that's happening any more.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Anthony Holloway
<[email protected]> wrote:
I know there are some TAC people on this mailing list, so what's up
with the bootable image topic? Are we not entitled to a copy, or
do we have to exchange favors in order to upgrade our
customers/selves?
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 5:45 PM NateCCIE <[email protected]> wrote:
TAC will get you the ISO if you ask nice/ push hard enough.
Especially if you get a Cisco employee and not an outsource
engineer.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 21, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Justin Steinberg <[email protected]>
wrote:
that's not possible afaik
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Ryan Huff <[email protected]>
wrote:
I have CCX 8.5.1; I am going to 10.6.1.
I am NOT doing an in-place upgrade. I'm having issues sourcing the
.ISO for their current version, so I can restore/jump upgrade it to
10.6.1 and get a same version DRS to import.
Is it possible to extract the historical reporting data *only*, and
move that into CUIC (CCX 10.6.1). I could be asking something
ridiculous; just not that versed in this area of CCX.
Any other ideas? (in-place upgrade just isn't possible due to other
factors not-relevant to this question).
Thanks,
ryan
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