Put the NTE first, or if you can only use NTE.

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:10 PM, GR <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thx Anthony. Just an update, did that and interworking works fine between 
> kpml and rtp nte. 
> 
> Was enquiring abt digit drop to follow a proactive approach rather than 
> reactive.  So far its ok without that - but I still have few pending sites so 
> not implemented globally yet. 
> 
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> 
> On 17 Mar 2018, at 5:08 am, Anthony Holloway <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> I have had to add digit-drop to the dial-peers when calls were heading to 
>> CUC, but not 100% of the time.  As with a lot of things, don't configure 
>> something just to configure it.  Know that it's needed first, then configure 
>> it.  Else you end up with this giant configuration that you cannot explain 
>> half of what its doing.
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:33 AM GR <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Thanks Anthony. So no need to configure digit drop ? Even if I am doing 
>> RFC2833 on one leg and advertise both Inband and OOB on second leg. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 16 Mar 2018, at 2:10 am, Anthony Holloway 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was going to mention that CUBE doesn't support rtp-nte to sip-kpml 
>>> interworking.  Weird, I know.  But that's how it was.  However, when I went 
>>> to grab the link for my source, the table has been updated, and I see that 
>>> this is now supported.
>>> 
>>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/voice/cube/configuration/cube-book/dtmf-relay.html#concept_264617919921874995299551391601561
>>>  
>>> <https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/voice/cube/configuration/cube-book/dtmf-relay.html#concept_264617919921874995299551391601561>
>>> 
>>> Therefore, I see no gotchas with enabling....well...maybe one gotcha.  If 
>>> you enable both RTP-NTE and SIP-KPML on a dial-peer, note that CUBE will 
>>> advertise both, and the offer answer model dictates that CUBE will then not 
>>> be able to choose or control the DTMF relay selected.  However, when CUBE 
>>> receives an offer with multiple relays in it, it will choose which to use 
>>> based on order....maybe.
>>> 
>>> Citations from that link:
>>> 
>>> "If multiple DTMF relay mechanisms are enabled on a SIP dial peer and are 
>>> negotiated successfully, NOTIFY-based out-of-band DTMF relay takes 
>>> precedence."
>>> 
>>> "If you configure more than one out-of-band DTMF method, preference goes 
>>> from highest to lowest in the order of configuration."
>>> 
>>> "CUBE negotiates both rtp-nte and sip-kpml if both are supported and 
>>> advertised in the incoming INVITE. However, CUBE relies on the rtp-nte DTMF 
>>> method to receive digits and a SUBSCRIBE if sip-kpml is not initiated. CUBE 
>>> still accepts SUBSCRIBEs for KPML. This prevents double-digit reporting 
>>> problems at CUBE."
>>> 
>>> "CUBE selects DTMF relay mechanisms using the following priority:
>>> sip-notify or sip-kpml (highest priority)
>>> rtp-nte
>>> None—Send DTMF in-band"
>>> I recommend to read that entire document, or at least the chapter I linked, 
>>> because it has some good info on it.  Of course, you'll want to test 
>>> everything, because it's not out of reason to have to file a documentation 
>>> defect.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 8:44 AM GR <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> 
>>> I am having an issue with SIP provider only supporting rfc2833. The CUBEs 
>>> are configured only for rtp-nte on all dial-peers facing both the provider 
>>> and the CUCM internal network (multiple clusters)
>>> 
>>> Randomly one of the MGCP/h323 gateway is having issues, where it only 
>>> supports OOB and then further complications trying to resolve the problem.
>>> 
>>> I am planning to add sip kpml as well on top of rtp-nte to advertise both 
>>> inband and outofband DTMF methods towards our internal CUCM network and let 
>>> CUBE do inter-working in case where one leg is rfc2833 (carrier side) and 
>>> other is kpml(internal network lets say MGCP gateway). Trying to stay away 
>>> from MTPs.
>>> 
>>> Any gotchas if I just go ahead and add kpml on top of existing rtp-nte 
>>> method (on CUBE dial-peers facing our internal network) as I don’t want to 
>>> break the setup where only inband is supported, hard to check in a global 
>>> deployment.
>>> 
>>> Any need to use digit-drop in case both inband and out of band digits are 
>>> sent? If required it will be only on dial-peers facing CUCM side? Or this 
>>> is not required as the provider only supports rfc2833.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> GR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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