Yeah - it was initially rtp-nte only (both internal and provider facing) but 
some sites could only do out of band and I wanted to steer clear of using MTPs 
- so added kpml on top of rtp nte. It works fine now and without the need for 
mtp. 

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> On 31 Mar 2018, at 2:38 pm, Kent Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Put the NTE first, or if you can only use NTE.
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:10 PM, GR <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Thx Anthony. Just an update, did that and interworking works fine between 
>> kpml and rtp nte. 
>> 
>> Was enquiring abt digit drop to follow a proactive approach rather than 
>> reactive.  So far its ok without that - but I still have few pending sites 
>> so not implemented globally yet. 
>> 
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>> 
>>> On 17 Mar 2018, at 5:08 am, Anthony Holloway 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have had to add digit-drop to the dial-peers when calls were heading to 
>>> CUC, but not 100% of the time.  As with a lot of things, don't configure 
>>> something just to configure it.  Know that it's needed first, then 
>>> configure it.  Else you end up with this giant configuration that you 
>>> cannot explain half of what its doing.
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:33 AM GR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Thanks Anthony. So no need to configure digit drop ? Even if I am doing 
>>>> RFC2833 on one leg and advertise both Inband and OOB on second leg. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 Mar 2018, at 2:10 am, Anthony Holloway 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was going to mention that CUBE doesn't support rtp-nte to sip-kpml 
>>>>> interworking.  Weird, I know.  But that's how it was.  However, when I 
>>>>> went to grab the link for my source, the table has been updated, and I 
>>>>> see that this is now supported.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/voice/cube/configuration/cube-book/dtmf-relay.html#concept_264617919921874995299551391601561
>>>>> 
>>>>> Therefore, I see no gotchas with enabling....well...maybe one gotcha.  If 
>>>>> you enable both RTP-NTE and SIP-KPML on a dial-peer, note that CUBE will 
>>>>> advertise both, and the offer answer model dictates that CUBE will then 
>>>>> not be able to choose or control the DTMF relay selected.  However, when 
>>>>> CUBE receives an offer with multiple relays in it, it will choose which 
>>>>> to use based on order....maybe.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Citations from that link:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "If multiple DTMF relay mechanisms are enabled on a SIP dial peer and are 
>>>>> negotiated successfully, NOTIFY-based out-of-band DTMF relay takes 
>>>>> precedence."
>>>>> 
>>>>> "If you configure more than one out-of-band DTMF method, preference goes 
>>>>> from highest to lowest in the order of configuration."
>>>>> 
>>>>> "CUBE negotiates both rtp-nte and sip-kpml if both are supported and 
>>>>> advertised in the incoming INVITE. However, CUBE relies on the rtp-nte 
>>>>> DTMF method to receive digits and a SUBSCRIBE if sip-kpml is not 
>>>>> initiated. CUBE still accepts SUBSCRIBEs for KPML. This prevents 
>>>>> double-digit reporting problems at CUBE."
>>>>> 
>>>>> "CUBE selects DTMF relay mechanisms using the following priority:
>>>>> sip-notify or sip-kpml (highest priority)
>>>>> rtp-nte
>>>>> None—Send DTMF in-band"
>>>>> I recommend to read that entire document, or at least the chapter I 
>>>>> linked, because it has some good info on it.  Of course, you'll want to 
>>>>> test everything, because it's not out of reason to have to file a 
>>>>> documentation defect.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 8:44 AM GR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am having an issue with SIP provider only supporting rfc2833. The 
>>>>>> CUBEs are configured only for rtp-nte on all dial-peers facing both the 
>>>>>> provider and the CUCM internal network (multiple clusters)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Randomly one of the MGCP/h323 gateway is having issues, where it only 
>>>>>> supports OOB and then further complications trying to resolve the 
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am planning to add sip kpml as well on top of rtp-nte to advertise 
>>>>>> both inband and outofband DTMF methods towards our internal CUCM network 
>>>>>> and let CUBE do inter-working in case where one leg is rfc2833 (carrier 
>>>>>> side) and other is kpml(internal network lets say MGCP gateway). Trying 
>>>>>> to stay away from MTPs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any gotchas if I just go ahead and add kpml on top of existing rtp-nte 
>>>>>> method (on CUBE dial-peers facing our internal network) as I don’t want 
>>>>>> to break the setup where only inband is supported, hard to check in a 
>>>>>> global deployment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any need to use digit-drop in case both inband and out of band digits 
>>>>>> are sent? If required it will be only on dial-peers facing CUCM side? Or 
>>>>>> this is not required as the provider only supports rfc2833.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> GR
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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