Esxi on dest only, os admin on source, it installs a cop file on source to pull 
the data. 

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> On Oct 23, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Dave Goodwin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I don’t have an easy way to check at the moment, but I think/hope that it’s 
> not required on the source side of the migration, and it just uses OS 
> credentials to send a shutdown. I know on the destination side ESXi is 
> required, because it maps the ISO via NFS, powers up the VM, etc. 
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:23 PM Matthew Loraditch 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Good question, because there is no way I’m getting the esxi login.
>> 
>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>      
>> Matthew Loraditch​
>> Sr. Network Engineer
>> p: 443.541.1518
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>> From: Dave Goodwin <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:21:49 PM
>> To: NateCCIE
>> Cc: Brian Meade; Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip voyp list
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>  
>> It’s been a while since I did a PCD migration, but does it also require that 
>> PCD log into ESXi on both the source and destination VMware servers? Or does 
>> it only need ESXi access on destination?
>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:08 PM NateCCIE <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> If you can get osadmin credentials, consider PCD migration.  It will change 
>>> the IPs and upgrade all in one nice step.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: cisco-voip <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian 
>>> Meade
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:47 PM
>>> To: Matthew Loraditch <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> They'll do DRS for moving to HCS from on-prem.  They'll setup everything 
>>> with your hostnames/IPs to restore then they'll make all their changes.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Opposite should be technically possible but probably depends on the HCS 
>>> partner if they'll share enough information with you to be able to restore 
>>> and even get the DRS Backups from them at all.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Curious about moving from HCS to on-prem, was cost the main factor or 
>>> anything else?  I've got a bunch of customers trying to go to HCS so could 
>>> use some talking-points if customers are seeing issues.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM Matthew Loraditch 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting. The UCCX system is only 1 script and 10 agents so if that 
>>> caveat doesn’t apply for CUCM and CUC, I’d be ok with it
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Matthew Loraditch​
>>> 
>>> Sr. Network Engineer
>>> 
>>> p: 443.541.1518
>>> 
>>> w: www.heliontechnologies.com
>>> 
>>>  | 
>>> 
>>> e: [email protected]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Anthony Holloway <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:20:20 PM
>>> To: Matthew Loraditch
>>> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migrate HCS to On-Prem
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Maybe some CDW people watching this mailing list will chime in, because I 
>>> happen to know that they do convert their own HCS customers to on-prem from 
>>> time to time.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From what I understand, you can restore it, but the configuration is all 
>>> jacked up, and you'll have to rename everything and/or reconfigure 
>>> everything anyway.  It might only make sense from a historical reporting 
>>> perspective.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Like, have you ever seen what ASDM does to a FW config?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Or what the CCP does to CME?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Or what CTI Logic was doing with "visual UCCX scripts?"
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Example:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> It's not that it's bad, it's just not a good long term solution to keep the 
>>> conventions the same.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> PS I just noticed the menu prompt says "pPressOneForHookers"  LOL, I'm not 
>>> sure what that's all about, but this image is from Tanner's tweet.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM Matthew Loraditch 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So we are taking a Customer from a 3rd party’s HCS back to On-Prem.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The way I understand HCS is it’s a bunch of management software on top of 
>>> normal VMs for CUCM/CUC/UCCX, etc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Can you restore a DRF of an HCS CUCM to the same version on-prem? Same for 
>>> the other apps?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Matthew Loraditch​
>>> 
>>> Sr. Network Engineer
>>> 
>>> p: 443.541.1518
>>> 
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