Starting in IM&P 12.0, there is a External Database Cleanup Utility on the IM&P 
server to allow for a retention policy/purging to occur for those databases.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/im_presence/database_setup/12_0_1/cup0_b_database-setup-guide-1201/cup0_b_database-setup-guide-1201_chapter_0110.html

~Chris

From: cisco-voip [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Erick 
Wellnitz
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:36 AM
To: Anthony Holloway <[email protected]>
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Persistent Chat

If I ever find out what the customer does I'll definitely update everyone.  I 
may even write something in the lab to share if I ever get some time.

I'd imagine a python script on a small linux host could run every night to 
clean up old entries.

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:05 AM Anthony Holloway 
<[email protected]<mailto:avholloway%[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Oh I see.  Well, since Cisco does mention the following:

"We recommend that you maintain the external database according to the best 
practice guidelines described in the product documentation. If you do not 
properly maintain the external database, and you allow the external database to 
fill up, this causes performance problems in the IM and Presence Service 
cluster."

It stands to reason that you could just use the method you described initially, 
which is to have your SQL admin write the procedure to delete records older 
than X days.

Good luck, and I'd be curious to know which route you take.

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:56 AM Erick Wellnitz 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That works for what loads in Jabber  but they're concerned with the messages 
existing in the database which makes them fair game for legal discovery.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 7:59 PM Anthony Holloway 
<[email protected]<mailto:avholloway%[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Is it not just the setting labeled  Maximum number of messages that can be 
retrieved from the archive?

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:12 AM Erick Wellnitz 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
All,

With the introduction of WebEx Teams the request for persistent chat isn't so 
common anymore.

I have a client asking about it and how we can limit how long messages are kept 
in persistent chat.

I can't find a native way to do that but was thinking if IM&Presence doesn't 
index the database independently an SQL admin could write a procedure to remove 
entries older than x days.

Any thoughts?
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