yes it would. We struggle with this too. Really it's two problems: - By the time we went to roll out these units, everyone already knew and loved Zoom. - With Zoom, you can play with it in your office before the meeting.
99% of our users probably use these things 1-2 times a year, but when they do, it absolutely has to work. It's a big ask for them to switch from something they already like using, to an unknown (to them) product, one they don't have in their office or on their laptop. -- Hunter Fuller Router Jockey VBH Annex B-5 +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama in Huntsville Network Engineering On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 8:56 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I think you've hit the nail on the head Adam. > > The idea of these room systems are great... they really do making joining > meetings easy (as long as you know to bring your host PIN, argh!). > > But I think we are going to be relegated to providing the best fit for all, > which, in the end, might be a USB enabled room. ☹ > > Why Cisco didn't (and doesn't intend to) extend the USB-plug-webcam option > for their larger units is beyond me. Could be technical, who knows. But that > would surely open up the justification for these room systems. > > > > --- > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst > Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph > Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G > 2W1 > 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | [email protected] > > www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cisco-voip <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pawlowski, > Adam > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:52 AM > To: 'James Andrewartha' <[email protected]>; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings > > I don't know if that whole mess is necessary to join a Zoom call. If the > party who sent you the Zoom invite has the connector service for interop, you > can usually call the meeting by <meetingnumber>@zoomcrc.com as SIP call. If > they don't, it prompts you to sign in on an app with your account (which is > paying for a connector license I guess) and then you can join the meeting > that way. > > In my experience with that, I've yet to come across a Zoom meeting I've been > invited to where someone has the connector on their account, and we don't pay > for one. In that case the Room Kit ends up being largely useless. Yes you can > share in a PC but then making use of the camera is expensive. > > And before anyone waves in with "Room Kit Mini", the framing on that is meant > for some very limited room sizes and is not suitable to the type of space > you'd be installing a proper codec to anyways. > > All of these disparate services work best if you can coax the other > participant(s) into playing in your house with your services. > > We've unfortunately decided not to pursue the Webex systems given this, and > have instead gone with external cameras and microphones that we can present > to a PC as a USB device. Not for everyone and doesn't fit all cases. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cisco-voip <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > > James Andrewartha > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:43 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings > > > > Zoom do sell a connector for Cisco room systems, but I don't know how > > well it works for joining third-party zoom meetings. The setup > > instructions are quite involved > > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115003126346-Zoom- > > Connector-for-Cisco > > > > I've just put in a Logitech Tap Microsoft Teams Room system and the > > announced compatibility with Webex and Zoom makes me happy we went > > with them. Someone noted there's been no public agreement between > > Webex and Zoom, only between them and MS Teams. > > > > -- > > James Andrewartha > > Network & Projects Engineer > > Christ Church Grammar School > > Claremont, Western Australia > > Ph. (08) 9442 1757 > > Mob. 0424 160 877 > > > > On 14/11/19 7:13 am, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: > > > > > > The question is whether or not the Zoom devices can dial other systems. > > > > > > If you're getting Zoom across the board, that's fine. But if you > > > can't > > participate with other systems, then you've further pigeon hole'd yourself. > > > > > > If that makes sense. > > > > > > The fact that Webex/Microsoft signed a deal is even more weight for > > > Webex > > devices. > > > > > > But I hear what you're saying. If your zoom, hard to say buy webex. > > > ☹ > > > > > > --- > > > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications > > > Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition > > > Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1 > > > 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | [email protected] > > > > > > www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Myron Young <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:52 PM > > > To: Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]> > > > Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings > > > > > > Thanks for the insight. I will try with the cloud device to test > > > this out and see if > > i can convince the powers that be. Otherwise we may be going full Zoom > > which I’m not adverse to, but would be very unfamiliar territories. > > > > > >> On Nov 13, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> I've not had any production experience, only testing. > > >> > > >> From a cloud registered endpoint perspective, you'll likely be > > >> using the > > "Call" button and have to enter the video address of the meeting. You > > shouldn't have any issues. > > >> > > >> What I don't like is the fact that forwarded meeting invites do not > > >> appear on > > the screen and/or show up with a join button. > > >> > > >> Scenario: Your org is exclusively Webex, but your vendor sends you > > >> a Zoom > > invite. They can't book your room. You need to book it yourself. The > > easiest way is to setup your O365 to allow rooms to auto-accept > > forwarded invites (and include all meeting notes). However, the > > meeting information never shows up on the device. I have tried > > replicating the meeting information via copy and paste and I believe > > that works (now I can't remember). My beef was that even forwarded Webex > > invites don't work! > > >> > > >> I'm hoping they resolve that soon. > > >> > > >> You could also consider writing an applet/macro for the device for > > >> Zoom, > > etc that asks for a meeting number and tags the domain. > > >> > > >> The other thing is, if the far end supports video endpoints, they > > >> typically > > support call back as well. > > >> > > >> The other other thing is, if you download the far end's mobile app, > > >> you > > should be able to click on the meeting in your mobile calendar, it > > launch the mobile app, and that should have a "call my video device" option. > > >> > > >> All things worth trying... > > >> > > >> Let us know how you make out. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --- > > >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst Computing and Communications > > >> Services | University of Guelph Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition > > >> Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1 > > >> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | [email protected] > > >> > > >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: cisco-voip <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > > >> Myron Young > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 4:24 PM > > >> To: cisco-voip voyp list <[email protected]> > > >> Subject: [cisco-voip] Webex room devices with 3rd party meetings > > >> > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> Anyone has any good experience in joining non-Webex meetings from > > >> the > > Cisco roomkit devices? Trying to deploy a standard for conference > > rooms with roomkit devices and touch 10 but need to make sure user > > experience is easy or similar when joining Webex meetings vs non-webex > > meetings such as Zoom, Blue Jeans or Microsoft meetings. > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> cisco-voip mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip > > > _______________________________________________ > > > cisco-voip mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip > > > > > > > > > -- > > James Andrewartha > > Network & Projects Engineer > > Christ Church Grammar School > > Claremont, Western Australia > > Ph. 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